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11-14-2009, 09:06 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Bethel Park,
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Cobra Make, Engine: B&B Mfg with '66 289ci
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Brighter headlights
I ran thru some of the search function "hits" and found a few threads on this subject. I want to put brighter headlights in my B&B roadster but dont want to rewire for the xenon kit (bought as a turnkey minus). Does anyone know manufacturers who sell brighter lights that are bolt in without the worry of melting wires? Just checking to see what is out there. Thanks, Brian
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11-14-2009, 10:56 AM
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As I get older, I swear the whole world gets darker...!
I'm trying a set of tribar repos I bought on eBay that will accept a modern bulb Like Sylvania Silver Stars. Don't have them in yet but should be better than standard sealed beams.
Larry
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11-14-2009, 11:25 AM
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I agree with everything getting darker. As modern cars have high intensity headlamps, driving the cobra can be difficult at night as its hard to see. Please let me know the difference from your OEM lights. Thanks, Brian
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11-14-2009, 12:54 PM
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Has anyone ever tried the aftermarket kits from Valeo/Sylvania from their aftermarket division, xSighting Lighting:
http://www.xsighting.com/
http://www.xsighting.com/products.html
These guys do a lot of Ford and GM OEM stuff, including I think the lights on the GT500 and other mustangs with HID's
They have several different kits for both 7" and 5 3/4" round replacements. |
11-14-2009, 05:00 PM
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I run a set of Hella 80/100 halogen headlamps. Turns night into day and has not affected the electrics or wiring on my SPF.
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11-14-2009, 05:09 PM
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I've used the Hellas also as well as the halogen H4's. Both are easily installed without relay modifications and really light up everything.
Be absolutely sure that you wear gloves during the installation because fingerprints or bodily oils will shorten the lifespan on both sets.
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11-14-2009, 06:01 PM
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Location: Lakeland,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427SC FMS 351W
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Easy to have brighter lights
I installed Cibie H4 lens (E-code) with 55/60W H4 bulbs. These lens have a longer (higher) cut off on the right to allow you see further and not blind on-coming traffic on low beams. The high beams really shine far down the road.
To get brighter light without going to 80W or more bulbs, you need to replace all wiring to each headlight with thicker wire ( iused 12 gauge), install two relays (one for low beam and a second for high beam), and feed power to these two relays (directly) from the alternator / battery. This set up also saves your existing headlight switch (and dimmer switch) from higher electrical loads incurred by the higher watt bulbs. If you go with 80W bulbs, you can drastically shorten the life of your existing wires and switches due to the higher electical load (amps), and not get the perfromance you are seeking. I purchased all the parts I needed several years ago from www.danielsternlighting.com. This is a great site to learn a lot about headlights. I checked and the site still looks active.
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11-20-2009, 05:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoom This
I run a set of Hella 80/100 halogen headlamps. Turns night into day and has not affected the electrics or wiring on my SPF.
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Those Hella80/100 headlamps seem like what I am looking for.... do you have the part # ordering info? Thanks.
After reading all the posts .... I found the answer to my question.... doh.... 
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11-20-2009, 06:10 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2613 Titanium w/Black, Roush 402SR
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Quote:
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Those Hella80/100 headlamps seem like what I am looking for.... do you have the part # ordering info? Thanks.
After reading all the posts .... I found the answer to my question.... doh.... |
The prices at RallyLights.com are competitive with Summit and it's easier to find what you want. Go here and use the pull down to pick the 100/80.
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=739
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11-20-2009, 06:23 PM
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Quote:
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Those Hella80/100 headlamps seem like what I am looking for.... do you have the part # ordering info? Thanks.
After reading all the posts .... I found the answer to my question.... doh.... |
My part number for the Hella headlights is 70477. This "might" be a Summit part number. The bulbs are H4-80100. The bulbs for 80/100 watt are purchased separately. Just in case the headlight relay goes south, it's a VW part # 111-941-583.
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11-20-2009, 09:12 PM
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Blas to base...over...<click>
Don't tell anyone but my car has the Blue H4 Halogen Headlights/ (Astra H4 High-Output (90/130) headlamp bulbs) And do they cause any problems you ask?...Well Hell.......yes...But..I am..."A WILD AND CRAZY GUY"
I pop a headlight relay every other year...So I always carry 2 spares with me where ever I go...at $16 a pop...
The problem occures (I think) when you go between the highs and lows...that's when the relay usually gets toasted...The std headlight wiring is 1.5mm to the lamps...
I have a schematic of a wiring modification (somewhere) that I was planning on adapting to eliminate that nasty & expensive Audi/VW relay...to use 2 cheaper relays...(one relay for high and 1 for low beams) I'll add it to my wiring diagrams too.
If I find my example I would post it in my gallery, but it's not my document, that is, it's someone elses intelectual property... and that would not be fair without permission. Maybe get it done over the winter sometime. Too busy right now because...
On a side note:
I'm up to my ears in the dash lighting upgrade project right now...Blew my 12v power supply 2 weeks back so nothing got done. But got a new one, and lit the mock-up display dash wednesday evening. A major improvement to the std lighting, except for the tach, I'm still working on it...
over and out <click>
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11-21-2009, 12:13 PM
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Blas,
Thanks for your post.... you answered my question before I asked it.  |
11-21-2009, 12:44 PM
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good work Blas
the tac is a pain in the ass for sure.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blas
Blas to base...over...<click>
Don't tell anyone but my car has the Blue H4 Halogen Headlights/ (Astra H4 High-Output (90/130) headlamp bulbs) And do they cause any problems you ask?...Well Hell.......yes...But..I am..."A WILD AND CRAZY GUY"
I pop a headlight relay every other year...So I always carry 2 spares with me where ever I go...at $16 a pop...
The problem occures (I think) when you go between the highs and lows...that's when the relay usually gets toasted...The std headlight wiring is 1.5mm to the lamps...
I have a schematic of a wiring modification (somewhere) that I was planning on adapting to eliminate that nasty & expensive Audi/VW relay...to use 2 cheaper relays...(one relay for high and 1 for low beams) I'll add it to my wiring diagrams too.
If I find my example I would post it in my gallery, but it's not my document, that is, it's someone elses intelectual property... and that would not be fair without permission. Maybe get it done over the winter sometime. Too busy right now because...
On a side note:
I'm up to my ears in the dash lighting upgrade project right now...Blew my 12v power supply 2 weeks back so nothing got done. But got a new one, and lit the mock-up display dash wednesday evening. A major improvement to the std lighting, except for the tach, I'm still working on it...
over and out <click>
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11-14-2009, 06:31 PM
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Here's another vote for the Hella's. I've had them for a few years and love them. (see post on PAY IT FORWARD for the take-off SPF headlights).
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11-14-2009, 09:10 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: RCR GT 40 & 1966 Fairlane 390 5 speed
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My vote
I installed the Hella 80/100 halogen headlamps also. Lots of light.
Dwight
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11-14-2009, 09:16 PM
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I did a Google search and found this link. $40 a piece. Great investment is safe night time driving.
I have replaced the burn out bulbs with Xexon or something a couple of years ago. You can plug in any H4 type bulb.
http://www.autobarn.net/hella-retrofit-kits-h6024.html
Dwight
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11-15-2009, 01:13 PM
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I have used many types of headlights in my Arntz Cobra over 20 years of driving and running rallys. My home made versions are the best, with a Nissan Murano HID assembly mounted inside a new 7" unit.
The Hella's have very good beam pattern with Halogen bulbs (Not so good with HID's). I have a set that I used for about a year and lots of brand new bulbs. If I can help anyone with anything, write me.
I may not respond before next week because I'm getting ready to run ta rally to Las Vegas: http://carzero.freeservers.com/
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11-15-2009, 02:19 PM
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I got a pair of HELLA replacement assemblies from Summit. I'm running the lamps that came with the set and have been very happy! The optics are so much better that you don't waste a bunch of light. Just put it where you need it! No need to do any mods to your wiring!
Sten
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11-17-2009, 11:00 AM
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This is what I'm running with a 100/80W H4 bulb. Works fine without upgrading the wiring in my SPF.
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=739 |
11-17-2009, 04:48 PM
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the Summit part number that I have is HLA-70477 for the bucket and HLA-78159 for the 100/80 watt bulb
Dwight
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