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12-05-2009, 04:39 PM
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That's what I thought, you really do not no anything about the two cars but what you have read on posts.
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12-05-2009, 04:41 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by Allan A
That's what I thought, you really do not no anything about the two cars but what you have read on posts.
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No Allan, I just don't want to open that can of worms, it has been flogged to death. Here is a recent thread on my local club. http://www.capitalareacobraclub.com/...ic,8508.0.html Skip down to Scott's post. He is a CSX owner, and it's a beautiful car. His words speak volumes.
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12-05-2009, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Allan A
That's what I thought, you really do not no anything about the two cars but what you have read on posts.
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Aww Allan,
Go easy on our very own Carnac-Knower-Of-All things. He's just "lobbing a few friendly grenades" to stimulate we dullards with his intellect and add sparkle and controversy to our hum-drum posts. He has told us so. Endlessly.
Besides, he's only 90 posts away from the magic 10,000 and had to say something in here about two cars he doesn't own. May get there by tonight.
For reference, Jamo has 12,000+ posts but it took him four years longer to get there (and he's a Mod!) than our Entertainment Director...
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12-05-2009, 05:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
Aww Allan,
Go easy on our very own Carnac-Knower-Of-All things. He's just "lobbing a few friendly grenades" to stimulate we dullards with his intellect and add sparkle and controversy to our hum-drum posts. He has told us so. Endlessly.
Besides, he's only 90 posts away from the magic 10,000 and had to say something in here about two cars he doesn't own. May get there by tonight.
For reference, Jamo has 12,000+ posts but it took him four years longer to get there (and he's a Mod!) than our Entertainment Director...
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Now that's pretty funny Chas. I guess Allan doesn't want to address the Capital Area Cobra Club thread. I don't blame him, either.
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12-05-2009, 07:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Allan A
That's what I thought, you really do not no anything about the two cars but what you have read on posts.
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I don't know if it's better or worse, but the Kirkham does weigh about 200-300 lbs lighter than a comparable CSX, and I assume it's been all the years and iterations of that the Kirkhams have spent updating their billet aluminum suspension or another example would be the U-joints to CV joints. BTW, my car weighed in at 2,128 lbs.
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12-05-2009, 08:04 PM
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Rod, you have to admit, the sensitivity level on this forum has never been higher.  You know, like an exposed nerve during a root canal....
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12-05-2009, 08:21 PM
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Looking back in history, there have been several threads comparing the Shelby and the Kirkham. The OP should review them. The two that come quickly to mind are the 'rsimones' thread and the other was by 'alpace.'
Shelby vs a Kirkham (aluminum)
CSX vs. Kirkham
They're both wonderful cars. As I always say, that why they make different flavors of ice cream.
Last edited by RodKnock; 12-05-2009 at 08:24 PM..
Reason: install links
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12-05-2009, 08:23 PM
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... the 'rsimones' thread
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The proper reference for that is "the thread of which we do not speak."
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12-05-2009, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
The proper reference for that is "the thread of which we do not speak."
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Oh not THE thread. He asked a bunch of questions before he bought his car, and one of them is linked above now.
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12-05-2009, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
Oh not THE thread. He asked a bunch of questions before he bought his car, and one of them is linked above now.
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Ooops. My mistake. Nevermind. 
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12-07-2009, 11:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Looking back in history, there have been several threads comparing the Shelby and the Kirkham. The OP should review them. The two that come quickly to mind are the 'rsimones' thread and the other was by 'alpace.'
Shelby vs a Kirkham (aluminum)
CSX vs. Kirkham
They're both wonderful cars. As I always say, that why they make different flavors of ice cream.
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I did not look at the links but both Al and RSimones ended up buying Kirkhams... If that tells you anything.
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12-07-2009, 11:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hexnut72
I did not look at the links but both Al and RSimones ended up buying Kirkhams... If that tells you anything.
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I didn't think about that, but you're obviously right. I, in no way picked them because of that fact. Those were the "Shelby versus Kirkham" threads that I found in the last few years.
Last edited by RodKnock; 12-07-2009 at 12:28 PM..
Reason: correct spelling of obviously
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12-07-2009, 11:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
I didn't think about that, but you're obvioulsy right. I, in no way picked them because of that fact. Those were the "Shelby versus Kirkham" threads that I found in the last few years.
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Are there any threads that went the other way? Meaning that they carefully compared the two and then went with Shelby?
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12-07-2009, 08:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
I don't know if it's better or worse, but the Kirkham does weigh about 200-300 lbs lighter than a comparable CSX, and I assume it's been all the years and iterations of that the Kirkhams have spent updating their billet aluminum suspension or another example would be the U-joints to CV joints. BTW, my car weighed in at 2,128 lbs.
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Evan, this is what I said. I said I don't know if it's better or not, but the Kirkhams claim that it is lighter in older threads. They also R&D their suspension (e.g., some of the Larry Ellison improvements are trickling down to the production cars) as well as other parts of the car, though some or all of these improvements move it further away from being authentic.
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