CSX 6000 at Barrett-Jackson

[franklin]

"Not to be confused with Cobra replicas, these are genuine Shelby Cobras, authenticated by Shelby Automobiles, Inc. with proper CSX numbers and a Manufacturer's Statement of Origin (MSO), signed by Carroll Shelby himself. Only a small number are built each year and every car is listed in the official Shelby registry."

"The fiberglass body is strikingly finished in the LeMans-winning Shelby unique color, LeMans Blue, a particularly rare color and one that complements this performance icon very well."

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by franklin

"Not to be confused with Cobra replicas, these are genuine Shelby Cobras, authenticated by Shelby Automobiles, Inc. with proper CSX numbers and a Manufacturer's Statement of Origin (MSO), signed by Carroll Shelby himself. Only a small number are built each year and every car is listed in the official Shelby registry."

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Well, you can roll your eyes and laugh all you want if that makes you feel better but the fact of the matter is the general public and those that buy and sell these cars including auction houses have begun to clearly view CSX continuaiton Cobras as authentic Shelby Cobras and more then mere "replicas" as that term is commonly used and understood today.

The fact that CSX 6018 ( a glass car) sold for $93,500.00 including commission says something. And in a bad economy no less. People don't plunk down close to or over 100 large for a faux Cobra. When looking at the auction sales numbers you have to add the commission to the sale price. That gives you the true selling number. Buyers certainly take this commission into consideration as to what they will bid. While 6018 sold at auction for less then MSRP that happens at auctions. Sometimes you get a good buy. Sometimes you overpay.

Oh, and since you own a Kirkham (a nice one by the way) by dragging down the Shelbys you are to a degree dragging down your own car as Kirkhams have accepted into the Shelby Registry with the Continuation series. Just a thought.

[somedayaurora]

Arizona shelby cobras say $83k for a csx all in with a Shelby FE/t600Trans then a 11k install charge -weird marketing- 83 k then oh 11k if you want it put together , Still that would make 94k for a csx with a shelby 427 . ( sans options) So csx 6018 w/ all options seems like a great deal.
SDR

http://www.arizonashelbycobras.com/C...px#build_sheet

New ebay planet cobra 99k all options :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Shelb...#ht_678wt_1167 SORRY old link relisted at 119k my bad

[REAL 1]

Sounds fair. The $11K is for the engine install and all the fit up and final tuning etc...

Not a bad price at all. You will then own a genuine Shelby Cobra and not a replica of one. Go for it.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Well, you can roll your eyes and laugh all you want if that makes you feel better but the fact of the matter is the general public and those that buy and sell these cars including auction houses have begun to clearly view CSX continuaiton Cobras as authentic Shelby Cobras and more then mere "replicas" as that term is commonly used and understood today.

I thought I would comment on Evan's comment about the "general public" and those that buy CSX continuation Cobras.

I read Sports Car Market each month. It's a very nice magazine that describes the auction results from various auctions during the year. Colin Comer contributes to the magazine and owns and races Shelbys. He's the magazines' "expert" when it comes to all things Shelby. Here's what he wrote in March 2008:

http://www.sportscarmarket.com/Domes...s/2008/March//

The bottom line. He's writing an article on the replica market and lumps the CSX and Kirkham with all the other replicas. So, I'm not sure your comment about how the general public and auction buyers perceive the CSX as anything more or less than a $150K replica.

[somedayaurora]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I thought I would comment on Evan's comment about the "general public" and those that buy CSX continuation Cobras.

I read Sports Car Market each month. It's a very nice magazine that describes the auction results from various auctions during the year. Colin Comer contributes to the magazine and owns and races Shelbys. He's the magazines' "expert" when it comes to all things Shelby. Here's what he wrote in March 2008:

http://www.sportscarmarket.com/Domes...s/2008/March//

The bottom line. He's writing an article on the replica market and lumps the CSX and Kirkham with all the other replicas. So, I'm not sure your comment about how the general public and auction buyers perceive the CSX as anything more or less than a $150K replica.

!!Ouch!!
SDR

[RodKnock]

Mr. Comer is a noted expert on the marque and writes for the largest auction magazine that I'm aware of at least. You mentioned general market perception of the CSX (and Kirkham too) as a Cobra. Notwithstanding what SAAC states in the registry, my point is that you and I don't equate to "general market perception."

If he's correct, then we both own very expensive replicas and that's how the market perceives them. Personally, I don't care, but I wanted to make the point about your use of the phrase "general market" and its perception of CSX Cobras. SAAC is unrelated to the "general market."

Dave, I'm sorry.

[somedayaurora]

I have to point out Crommer probally paid less for his original than you guys paid for your continuations . He's seems to be a snob , and let's be fair your "Cobra's" are of such a higher quality , just no patina . As for SAAC's views on continuation's , I would bet the head guys don't really believe continuations are "real" Don't most of them own originals ? Do you guy's feel Elanor is a real gt 500 ? And lets remember carrol has no problem suing SAAC if they cross him , "It's real if I say it's real" . But what the hell do I know I'm a poseur .
Back to original topic , great deal on csx 6018 at BJ
SDR

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Well, you can roll your eyes and laugh all you want if that makes you feel better but the fact of the matter is the general public and those that buy and sell these cars including auction houses have begun to clearly view CSX continuaiton Cobras as authentic Shelby Cobras and more then mere "replicas" as that term is commonly used and understood today.

No, this was your point, and missing your own point. I'll quote you again:

"...the general public and those that buy and sell these cars including auction houses have begun to clearly view CSX continuaiton Cobras as authentic Shelby Cobras and more then mere "replicas"...

You may be right or you may be wrong, but SAAC is NOT considered "the general public."

Personally, I think the general public sees every non-CSX2000 and CSX3000 Cobra as merely a replica, as Mr. Comer thinks. Thus, I disagree with your statement above.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Well, you can roll your eyes and laugh all you want if that makes you feel better but the fact of the matter is the general public and those that buy and sell these cars including auction houses have begun to clearly view CSX continuaiton Cobras as authentic Shelby Cobras and more then mere "replicas" as that term is commonly used and understood today.

Evan, you used the phrase, not me. You explain it.

And please feel free to omit any references or direct quotes from the SAAC Registry again.