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02-04-2010, 09:20 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2001
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Cobra Make, Engine: JBL now SOLD
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The current manufacturers who splashed their body mold from an actual original body.......they don't count as being "close" to an original?
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02-04-2010, 09:55 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Apopka,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Building 289 Lemans / FFR mkIV chassis w/ Bruce Chervenak
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdean
The current manufacturers who splashed their body mold from an actual original body.......they don't count as being "close" to an original?
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Notwithstanding that, there's some debate elsewhere about whether this mk4 is an "exact" copy of the #198 / late Dick Smith car. One guy is claiming he was told expressly by Dave Smith earlier this week that it is an exact copy. To others it looks slightly different (I agree). Pictures are a funny thing though. It'll be interesting to see what's what next weekend. |
02-05-2010, 06:38 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Arps/Burroughs/Hurricane/428FE
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Have a question, will the new MK4 by FF5 make the original FF5 "perky Butts" the originals and increase their respective value.
Will the MK4 be known as the Continuation car? HARRRRR!
All FFR's are very cool machines and I see no problems with their changes.
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02-05-2010, 10:07 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Driftwood,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Cobra, 427 side oiler
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Some comparisons regarding the new body vs #198:
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02-05-2010, 03:17 PM
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Jay,
Seriously man. We are ALL waiting for the 13th and there seems to be many more than just FFR owners that are jacked about the news. Many of the comments I read, while sitting here eating my hot dog, regarding differences from #198 to the MK4 are coming from current FFR owners. Other than someone unearthing an already-been-beatin-to-death problem, I don't see any other unhealthy tone here other than sour grapes.
IRS is superior. Nobody stated otherwise and it will be on my next FFR. Make it standard and they'll raise the cost which doesn't seem to fit well with FFR's build-it-yourself and build-it-cheap strategy. But until my next IRS build, if these guys are comfortable throwing solid axles around, then it works for me. 
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02-05-2010, 04:31 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
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Is Patrick 2' under snow or what  I am seriously jonesing for a Blackies dog though after all that. |
02-05-2010, 04:32 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Is Patrick 2' under snow or what |
It's going to be soooo bad that I'm actually following this FFR thread.  |
02-05-2010, 04:54 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Building 289 Lemans / FFR mkIV chassis w/ Bruce Chervenak
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FFR shared another photo:
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02-05-2010, 04:56 PM
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Comparison:
(I didn't do this)
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02-05-2010, 05:04 PM
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It's all over but the crying. 
And for all of the years of talk about FFR and what's wrong with them... yeah that's ok to say. Kudos to those guys.
It's good to be a cobra customer these days.
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02-05-2010, 05:51 PM
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Is this the Dominos Pizza approach? I kid, I kid. The new car really is a major leap for the FFRmy ... it's all good.
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02-05-2010, 06:07 PM
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That comparison shot looks kinda freakish to me. Have I been wearing cobra beer goggles all this time?
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02-05-2010, 08:22 PM
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02-05-2010, 10:22 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Building 289 Lemans / FFR mkIV chassis w/ Bruce Chervenak
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CSX 3035
Mirrored-image 4000 Series
Mirrored-image FFR mk4
Kirkham
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02-05-2010, 10:52 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Redding,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR chassis and suspension, Mr. Bruce 289 FIA body
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The rollbar is still too straight. But owners can fix that rather easily
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Reason: grammar correction
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02-06-2010, 10:32 AM
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Location: Waco, TX,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #766, FE V8, Toploader
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Too much rocker panel, making the car look "high" and "stubby," rather than low and sleek.
Still an improvement, though.
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02-06-2010, 11:30 AM
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Location: St. Lucia, West Indies,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427SC 383 stroker
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Yes, there is a bit of extra depth in the rocker - an issue one sees on a few replicas; Contemporary and Everett Morrison and to a lesser extent, Spf. The improvement in the positioning of the sidepipes (higher) offsets the effect and the increased "droop" in the nose and tail help to compensate as well. I would really like to see a front quarter view that shows the relationship of the wheel/tire to the fender and body.
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02-06-2010, 01:30 PM
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Quote:
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I would really like to see a front quarter view that shows the relationship of the wheel/tire to the fender and body.
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02-06-2010, 02:22 PM
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Thanks jmimac. The rear fender shape looks good and the line of the front fender curves nicely down into the headlights. The rear tire sticks out just a wee bit, but it's minor and quite probably fixable with a wheel size/offset adjustment. The overall look of the MK IV is quite good. Not the most dead nuts accurate out there (within the range of original car variations); but far more "correct" appearing than many - including one or two that are often touted as being faithful to the original car.
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Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the strength to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. -(wasn't me)
BEWARE OF THE DOGma!! Dogmatism bites...
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02-06-2010, 03:47 PM
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