Ford & GM are now outselling the ricer cars !!!!

[SP01715]

Originally Posted by Bobcat

Not trying to start an argument , but I watched the "urban legend exploding Pinto fuel tank " incinerate two people many years ago in Augusta , GA when they were hit from behind trying to merge onto Bobby Jones Expressway . You/I could see one of the people still in the back seat and the others trying to get to her . A young child was also killed in that wreck .

The show I watched (I want to say Mythbusters, but I could be wrong) could not duplicate the problem.

Here is an article with some facts...

http://www.car-forums.com/s10/t2240.html

[Cobrabill]

[quote=SP01715;
BTW, I also own a jeep wrangler and the rollover problems are highly exaggerated (sp). I also watched a special a couple years ago where they tested urban legends, and they tried to get a Pinto tank to expload and failed.[/QUOTE]

The Wrangler exists BECAUSE of the "CJ" roll-over issues.You are correct about the Pinto.And the GM "saddle tanks" and the Explorer are also urban legend.

[Don]

Don't miss the Corvair Birthday Party

" Hemmings will be honoring the 50th birthday of the Chevrolet Corvair at the New England Concours on Sunday, July 18. To show everyone just how innovative these compact cars really are, our goal is to have on display one example of every Corvair model ever built. If you own a correctly restored or well-preserved original Corvair and would like to be part of this very special tribute, kindly send photos of your Corvair to rlentinello@hemmings.com "

[Cobrabill]

Originally Posted by Don

Don't miss the Corvair Birthday Party

" Hemmings will be honoring the 50th birthday of the Chevrolet Corvair at the New England Concours on Sunday, July 18. To show everyone just how innovative these compact cars really are, our goal is to have on display one example of every Corvair model ever built. If you own a correctly restored or well-preserved original Corvair and would like to be part of this very special tribute, kindly send photos of your Corvair to rlentinello@hemmings.com "

I think that's cool-showcasing the LAST innovative thing GM did.

[SP01715]

Originally Posted by Cobrabill

The Wrangler exists BECAUSE of the "CJ" roll-over issues.

I offroad with a bunch of Jeeps, and the guys with CJ's do just fine. Any short wheelbase vehicle with a high center of gravity is going to roll easier than a car, but I still think the rollover issue is exagerated. My.02

[Cobrabill]

Originally Posted by SP01715

I offroad with a bunch of Jeeps, and the guys with CJ's do just fine. Any short wheelbase vehicle with a high center of gravity is going to roll easier than a car, but I still think the rollover issue is exagerated. My.02

I don't doubt you.But the fact remains that taking a design(the Jeep) that was NEVER intended to surpass 40 mph and then put a bigger engine in it and let physics dictate top speed was a bone-headed idea.

ANd it must have been a problem as Jeep?Chrysler sh!tcanned their biggest seller-the CJ series.

[Got the Bug]

Originally Posted by elmariachi

I have to say I am amused at the hype of this recall. Its amazing how after Pinto gas tank explosions and Jeep CJ rollovers we forget that the American auto manufacturers INVENTED and forever defined for Webster the concept of a recall. Lee Iacocca said it best, "If you can find a better car, buy it."

So I did. Eleven times.

A little trip down the auto recall hall of shame.

http://autos.ca.msn.com/photos/galle...entid=22338216

"Toyota recalled as many as 3.8 million cars worldwide due to floor mats that could cause the accelerator pedal to get stuck to the floor.

But wait, there's more. Ford just added 4.5 million vehicles to the 9.6 million recalled in 2008 due to a faulty cruise control switch that could catch fire. Do the math - that's 14.1 million cars recalled."

[Cobrabill]

There's a twist-lets add up all the recalls for Toyota/Honda/Nissan vs.Detroit.Lets see who"wins".

[Got the Bug]

Toyota Says Cup Holders Still Working Great -

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-b..._b_449089.html

[lovehamr]

I drove a 79 CJ5 V8 for years and never had a problem. I also remember one of those D/A "expose" kind of shows trying to film a chebbie truck with those "horendously dangerous" side saddle tanks explode. So just to make sure they got what they wanted they wired in model rocket engines to make sure something would give them the blaze that would give them ratings. I dislike chebbies and even I thought that was the worst crock of **** since Geroldo Rivera digging up Al Capone's buried treasure. Imagine what those idiots would say about a GT40!

Steve

[pb4au]

The Pendulum is swinging back and we are more than happy to help it along. This year we are buying two Ford Transits and we only purchase American Made tools and our products are only made with American raw materials.

[Cobrabill]

Originally Posted by pb4au

The Pendulum is swinging back and we are more than happy to help it along. 1)This year we are buying two Ford Transits and 2)we only purchase American Made tools and 3)our products are only made with American raw materials.

1)People like you kill me.The "Transit" has been around since the FIFTIES in Europe.It's a FOREIGN car.
2)You mean like Snap-On?ANd pay six times what the tool is worth?
3)And pay more for inferior products?

Hell of a business model you have there.


http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/20/r...eside-in-2012/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Transit

http://www.thecarconnection.com/revi...onnect-preview

[Bill Bess]

First of all, I mean a Patriot will always support American values and products when possible. Unfortunately, it's almost impossible to do this because we've sent most of the manufacturing over sea's to reduce operating costs and remain competitive.
If we (the people) started demanding products made in America, by Americans and not buying so many foriegn products, our companies might get the message.
This concept is a basic approach to solving some of our problems, as far as recalls..they will always exist unless we go back to riding horses.
( of course horse saddles could be recalled too.)

[bulletbrown]

Two years ago on a business talk show , one goverment and two private economists where ask this question : Why do we need imports ? They have ruined are economy , strip use of are future and left use in debt to the very people that destroyed us. Not one could answer or would speak ; they when to a commercial and did not resume after the break.

[bulletbrown]

It is not where there made but where does the profit goes that is important. What does Japan buy from us ? Trade was the first big LIE from are goverment . Second that American Works can compete with cheap overseas labor. How could they and pay are cost of living. Speaking of being out of date , Blame America first and , Me first, HAS COME AROUND AND HAS DESTROYED ARE ECONOMY . We never needed trade , they did , and look what has happen

[RACERAL]

Usa.....usa.......usa......usa

[Cobrabill]

Originally Posted by RACERAL

Usa.....usa.......usa......usa

How about:

Good product.....Good product.......Good product