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View Poll Results: Who played the most important role in the original Cobra's success? Check only one.
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Carroll Shelby
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51.87% |
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Ken Miles
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24.06% |
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Phil Remington
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6.95% |
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Pete Brock
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6.42% |
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John Tojeiro
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2.14% |
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Alan Turner
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1.07% |
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Don Frey
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Other, please specify
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14 |
7.49% |
02-04-2010, 01:46 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Ottawa,
ON
Cobra Make, Engine: 2002 Superformance w/392 stroker
Posts: 1,607
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[Dangerous poll #2] Who played the most important role in the Cobra?
In other words, whose role was completely indispensable in making the Cobra what it was?
Please vote, and feel free to explain the reasons for your choice.
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and anyone who drives slower is an Idiot." - George Carlin
Last edited by SunDude; 02-04-2010 at 01:51 PM..
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02-04-2010, 02:03 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana,
La.
Cobra Make, Engine: Waiting to Order a BDR, engine to be a SA C408. TKO to hook it up.
Posts: 1,259
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The fastest car in the world is just a collection of stationary parts until someone makes it work. Ken made it work.
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02-04-2010, 02:22 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Granite Bay,
Ca
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF GT40P-2265/393W, KMP318 (PROJECT!!!!!)/CSX478
Posts: 1,158
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Despite my personal distaste for the man's recent behaviour, Shelby was the key in getting the whole thing moving.
Without Carroll, Ken Miles is still driving his MG specials around SoCal. Without Carroll, none of the parties that got together to develope the Cobra into what it became would have met.
Shelby didn't build the car, he didn't design the car, and he didn't race the car. But he did make it happen.
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Ron R
"Dishwasher? I thought that was for cleaning parts!?"
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02-04-2010, 02:37 PM
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Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Salem,,
NJ
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 289 FIA #2100 Rio Red Wimbledon White Stripes 302 stroked to 331 Webers Richmond Road Race 5 speed
Posts: 779
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Shelby mated the AC Bristol with the Ford 289, But Ken Miles did all the testing to make the car cross the finish line way ahead of the competition. Any one can build a race car, but not every one can make it a winner. Miles was not only a race driver, but an engineer who could tell exactly what was wrong with the car and how to fix it.
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02-04-2010, 02:41 PM
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Backdraft Racing Dealer
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
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Who wrote the checks?
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02-04-2010, 02:41 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Shasta Lake,
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Cobra Make, Engine:
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I went with Ken Miles because he used to test the cars on the city streets and the cops could never catch him. He seemed to know exactly what had to be done to make them handle and fast. A great driver and engineer I think. And he had a real seat of the pants feel for the cars.
Ron
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02-04-2010, 03:14 PM
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Banned
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Yorba Linda,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF w/392CI stroker
Posts: 3,293
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Ford. Without sponsors/backing where would have Carroll come up with the cash to pay for it all?
-Dean
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02-04-2010, 03:22 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
Posts: 9,588
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How about Enzo Ferrari? Without his car, there would be no war.
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02-04-2010, 03:29 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Tucson,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance 427 Side-Oiler
Posts: 2,156
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Everyone BUT Shelby.
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02-04-2010, 03:53 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Freedomia,,
Il
Cobra Make, Engine: Coupe,Blue w/white stripes SB; Roadster, Blue w/white stripes BB w/2-4s; SPF installer/Hot Rod-Custom Car builder
Posts: 1,376
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I have to give it to GM. If they hadn't refused to sell Chebby engines to CS, they would have likely played second fiddle to the Corvette. Interesting that Ford is capitalizing on that connection and GM is banking on their political ones 
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WDZ
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02-04-2010, 04:19 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Menasha,
WI
Cobra Make, Engine: B+B 351w #112
Posts: 600
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Didn't CS use an AC car that was already designed to fit a european Ford engine? Jim
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02-04-2010, 04:31 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Meriden,
CT
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427 SC s/n 718, 428 FE
Posts: 1,726
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Like him or not, it was 'ole Shel who put it all together. He's the one who hired the people who made the whole thing work. He had the vision.
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02-04-2010, 05:23 PM
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Full Blown Member
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 427 S/C, Twin Paxton 511 FE
Posts: 2,594
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Some of these answers are getting pretty darn creative. 
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02-04-2010, 06:14 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Montgomery,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CR 427 S/C, 351W, 5 Sp & KMP142 - 427 SO, 4 Spd
Posts: 2,212
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Heh heh - would you expect anything else?
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Flip
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02-04-2010, 08:35 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: The Heart of the Citrus District,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Sold 3047 & 3002 in 2012
Posts: 2,763
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Carroll has been quoted many times saying.... "that without Ken Miles, there would have been no C O B R A"
..so would Carroll's efforts never made the history they have engraved? ..................no
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02-04-2010, 09:17 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA 'Street' Build
Posts: 2,126
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As said above, Shelby is the guy that brought it all together, but he certainly did not do it alone.
All of the guys on the list had a part of making the Cobra what it was. So one vote for Shelby ... but I think they are all worthy of a vote.
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02-04-2010, 09:36 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Westlake Village,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX 2343-SOLD
Posts: 51
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Elvis Presley in Viva Las Vegas, lol
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02-04-2010, 10:58 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Mountain View,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2914 Sunset / Titanium
Posts: 233
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They all did have a hand in it. Ford backed it. There is no denying any of that. However if it weren't fort Shelby it would never had seen the sucess that it did. For god sakes he painted that poor, now blue, used to be cream, 289 car something like 20+ times. Shelby is good at what he does, plus he has always been smart in marketed. Just like Steve Dinan with BMW and Chip Foose and every other household name. There is a reason my glove bow has his signature on it.........
Andrei
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02-05-2010, 03:20 AM
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Shelby's Friends
Ac Bristol and Ford made this possible. Shelby is a pitch man. The fact of having one of the best west coast drivers at this time added to this legend, Ken Miles. IMO the real people who played the most important role where the mechanics, engineers, and machinists. No car can win without a good motor that becomes a great motor. This means both Small block and Big block cars. Some of the greatest drivers all where in the right location also. When the stars line up in order, you can do no wrong. I do think it is nice that in the last couple of years CS has acknowledged some of the people who this fairy tale could not have been done without.  Rick L. |
02-05-2010, 03:29 AM
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Location: Wilmington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadster, 302, roller cam, Holley 650
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Rick, Time to batten down the hatches. It's not going to be a Cobra kind of day
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