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Old 04-05-2010, 11:34 AM
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In fact...nobody's going to argue the political ramifications of this legislation...stick to the question of whether the bill is a good or bad thing.

My own opinion...it's a left-wing commie nutjob kind of bill that whacked out conservative gun-owning ranticizers typically argue against because of its authorship.

But for common folk who actually pay bills instead of living off society's teat...it makes sense and is a good thing.

But let's not get political!
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It's a simple question, just looking for a simple answer, not an argument.
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I spoke with a local "Joe's Garage Inc." today about this, he told me he has been able to get some technical bulletins from a Ford dealer for sometime now, not all, but some...he said they have been helpful sharing knowlwdge.....

His equipment allows him to do the basic diagnostic stuff, not the major stuff, that equipment he tells me is not cost effective for his shop and he can't afford the equipment to service all the makes.......

Also, I think, the average soccer mom is more inclined to go to a dealer when a "check engine"/"service light" comes on rather than a local garage, compounding the problem of affording the equipment by the local shops........

I'm all for sharing this info with the shops as the nearest Ford dealer is 35 miles from me, and my local shop charges about 60% of the dealer for labor...........

Staying on topic Jamo...

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[Edit: Ernie...] I just gave what I thought was a gentle nudge, and you flat ignore it?

What's with you commie-pinko-enviro-teat suckers...seems you can't let go of something for the good of mankind and Cobras.

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You posted just in time, David...I was about to hit the phukit button.
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Actually, I didn't see your post Jamo, I responded directly from my email link. Your right though, no further response from me on the subject was warranted regardless.
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You posted just in time, David...I was about to hit the phukit button.

Just trying to follow orders from the boss man.........and discuss the topic at hand, as I think it will effect us all sooner or later........

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Thank you, gentlemen.
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What's with you commie-pinko-enviro-teat suckers

How is that not political
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...cause he left out the rainbow/Unicorn part.
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Does this mean I can get my BMW fixed. -->?

My 550i has been so troublesome on so many nagging technology issues that I am just lucky enough *NOT* to have solid rocket boosters on its.
--, as I know if I did . --I would have split a n O-Ring by now.
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What you dont see is calif cant do anything right ,no matter how many laws we have here its not enough,no matter how much money they get its not enough, calif cant run its self any longer. We elect what we hope will be a great fix and only get more of the same we cant educate or children the Board of Education is a failure its had 100 years to get it right and still dosent know how to teach children.What Calif needs is a great house cleaning. But thats not going to happen as the people that keep failing are the ones in charge,God Bless Calif no one else will.

The idiots are trying to idiot proof the world and there getting negative results.
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Well, that was a non sequitur if I ever saw one---complete with misspellings, run-on sentences and incorrect contractions.

Yes, I can see that California can't do anything right. That's why California is one of the ten largest economies in the world---and the only non-nation on that short list.

Nevertheless, getting back to the point of the thread: In today's news Toyota is being questioned about withholding safety testing information in legal battles. I still think this law is more about getting into manufacturer's "black box" to decipher the data such as on the on the acceleration problems on the Toyota Prius. If they are the only ones with decoder ring, they can pretty much spin their own story. Right now, they are the only ones with a decoder ring.

Laws are created in order to enforce the minimally acceptable form of behavior in a society. If we cannot trust an automobile manufacturer to behave ethically, to decipher their own data without spin or bias, guess what? We'll have to enact a law so that they will be penalized. This is about protecting the consumer.

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Spillman...cool it with the politics, please.

Thank you for your expected cooperation.
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