Fram warning

[ERA Chas]

"No good deed goes unpunished..."

It appears that among the posters here only Tommy uses the Fram filter and appreciated the heads-up. That's all my intent was, to warn users. Maybe some of the 700 views include users too and I hope my evidence is noted by them.

At no time did I get on advocating anybody switch to copper lines. In no way am I defending my use of them.

Several of you have noticed the copper lines and have responded across a range of expressing constructive concern (which I really appreciate) to blasting me for my stupidity.

As I said, that system has been in place for 14 years now and with 3 line changes, I have managed to not make a toasted ERA. When contemplating the pump/filter arrangement, I studied the available line materials. Stainless and mild steel were very difficult as I didn't have pro-level benders to work with. Aluminum was commonly available from Moroso, Jegs and others but I rejected that because I thought it would have the same characteristics that some of you say copper does (work hardening/vibration). Many drag cars use it but I reasoned it was subject to frequent inspections or changes. I rejected braided line for the connection difficulties to the ERA tank 'out' lines.

I went to my local long-established parts house and found the roll of 25' 'Copper Fuel Line' in a box. No warning or cautions about any type of usage.

Jerry-you got me buddy. Yes tape on NPT and flairs. I just was paranoid about leaks or fumes in front of the battery and I guess I didn't make perfect inverted flairs. I will address that. Your point about the strain relief coil is valid. My set up has bulkhead grommets and the tank ends are connected to the tank tubes with 9" GoodYear neoprene fuel lines so I think vibration is not a serious factor in my case. The pump is mounted with a hard rubber sheet damper and I don't think its vibration has caused a problem. Thanks for your comments.

Gator, your comment, which you meant as constructive, begs for more explanation as to how the cause was determined to be copper and what you actually saw. I'm surely interested.

rats,
You've been on here long enough to know to keep the thread subject as at least part of your comment. It's called 'hijack'. Start your own thread questions.

Pat,
Taking the devils advocate position has unfortunately gotten you a bloody nose from our resident thug. I'm only happy when I give you a bloody nose.... Like you, I've never seen or been told any factual reason not to use copper. And I've been sweating the Cobra replica world (with this car) before many guys on here knew what one was.

Then there's jwd,
Your 40 year career does NOT entitle you to say things like this to any one on here:

"ERA chucky can use whatever he wants. I don't give a flying F--K. Damn, some people are just stupid."

"Do it right or don't do it"

"Only a fool would use one for a fuel line."

"I seriously doubt that anyone who knows anything about cars would argue this point."

"Too much time has been wasted on this stupid azz subject. "

-So after your first salvo you should have just disappeared. We didn't need your imagined expertise delivered with hammer blows when no one else was talking tough. You obviously never read Brent's "Be nice" thread. Maybe Jamo could give you a refresher link?

I see you're still the same hammerhead thug you were last year when you attempted to beat me up in another thread. I sent you a clear message then but I'll repeat it LOUDER this time. Put me on your ignore list. Don't get into any thread I start. Stop talking-down to and scolding guys like we're all in short pants. You're dumber than a rockpile and you're belligerence adds no credibility to what you say. We can get a fifth-grader to explain that to you. Don't reply-start your own 'hate' thread.

Guys, I truly appreciate the well-meaning advice and welcome further real evidence and discussion. I'm really curious-how many guys use the HPGC-1?

I can always learn more-I'm not a know-it-all.