The Cobra market is full !!!!

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Dynamic

I cannot tell you how many guys I see at hot-rod shows tooling around in mobility scooters that cannot even get into a Cobra, and the younger demographic likes modern looks and performance.

I agree 100%. Plus, unless you're lucky, these cars require a good bit of "basic maintenance" that a lot of us took for granted when we were growing up. I don't see those skills anymore with today's high school boys. In fact, I would bet that if you went to your local high school 99% of the senior boys there could not change the spark plugs or change the oil in the car they drive.

[madmaxx]

Geez, they would have no chance of adjusting your flat tappet valves in your ERA, Hate to break it to you but many of the idiots at so called "garages" cannot do it either. I was chasing a stupid problem I created with breaking a spark plug and every mechanic, timing off, oh, its not bad you can drive it like that, oh, i can set the timing where you will not notice, let me mess with the carburator. Get the fuk away from it, none of those items were manipulated with prior to the problem how the fuk could they be causing it. In the end it was $1.99 spark plug. My biggest fear in life is allowing someone to work on any of my cars!!




I see alot of guys still in the 5.0l market but they just dont have the $$$$$, life is a biatch when you are poor.

Originally Posted by patrickt

I agree 100%. Plus, unless you're lucky, these cars require a good bit of "basic maintenance" that a lot of us took for granted when we were growing up. I don't see those skills anymore with today's high school boys. In fact, I would bet that if you went to your local high school 99% of the senior boys there could not change the spark plugs or change the oil in the car they drive.

[patrickt]

If you: Change the Cap & Rotor, Points & Condensor (if they still got 'em) Plug Wires, Spark Plugs, and blow the carburetor out with cleaner and compressed air you will cure 98% of old engine ills and you won't have made any real changes to the engine at all. At a car show last year I pulled in next to a young Asian kid that had a highly modified Japanese car. He had clearly spent some significant money on it and it was kind of cool to have his new-fangled engine right next to mine. After I complimented him on what appeared to be a pretty complicated Turbo charger set up he took a gander inside my Turkey Pan, pointed, and said "that's a carburetor, right? Cool."

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

After I complimented him on what appeared to be a pretty complicated Turbo charger set up he took a gander inside my Turkey Pan, pointed, and said "that's a carburetor, right? Cool."

I'm sure he would have spelled "carberater" correctly too.

There's a very similar thread over on the GT40's Forum, but obviously about the current state of the GT40's market:

http://www.gt40s.com/forum/all-gt40/...40-market.html

BTW, I opened up and skimmed my new issue of Hemmings last night and I saw a 2001 Ferrari 360 Spyder 6-speed and silver with 15,000 miles asking $87,000. To me, that's unbelievable. It almost makes you blind to the fact that tuneups are $5,000-$10,000.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

There's a very similar thread over on the GT40's Forum, but obviously about the current state of the GT40's market:

the ERA for sale at Cobra Country is/was Mark LeVea's. The interesting note, it is being sold by the administrator of the Estate of Mark LeVea.

I am hoping this does not mean Mark is no longer with us ...

Pretty bright bunch of guys over there....

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by patrickt

I agree 100%. Plus, unless you're lucky, these cars require a good bit of "basic maintenance" that a lot of us took for granted when we were growing up. I don't see those skills anymore with today's high school boys. In fact, I would bet that if you went to your local high school 99% of the senior boys there could not change the spark plugs or change the oil in the car they drive.

You're right on there!! When I went to high school in Washington State, there was a class called "Farm Shop". It was (mabe still is) a requirement for the schools to have the class due to WA being an agricultural state. We all just brought our hot rods or whatever cars we had to the class and worked on them. Learned sheet metal, welding and all the basic things you needed to know to maintain your car. Sadly, I believe those days are gone and kids these days just order whatever "pre-programmed" or "pre-engineered" parts for their car online and have someone bolt them on for them. They don't seem to have a clue about what makes the enfing run or any appreciation for the "soul" of a well built motor.....

[Ric S.]

Guys, great dialogue on the subject. Mine is a Unique Motorcars, not that that is the subject I just did not see the brand mentioned. My take here is the "state of the market" is just that; "the state of the market." We move where the economy moves us and or disposable income. I agree that the traditionalist will quickly find a car of choice. I built mine to learn the skills required to do the build, not keep the car. I also enjoyed the comments on how cobra builds are going beyond traditional to more of a personal touch. For example, mine is creamsicle orange/white stripes on 18" wheels/rims. The engine bay is stuffed full of a big block FE. Yes, it turns heads but that does not translate into cash toting buyers. The entire stance of the car is different. When I figure out the image upload aspect, I will load a photo. Back on point. I feel I may now be paying for wanting a modern hotrod look blended into the '65 cobra look. Keeping her around longer is not so bad though.

Now I would like suggestions on other marketing sources. Cobra Country is great as a dedicated cobra site. Where else; Auto Trader, Hemmings???

I have no regrets in selecting Unique or a cobra as my midlife crisis project. The key to any dilemma is patience and respecting the views and needs of others. I know out there somewhere is a very smart individual that is looking for an orange cobra dressed like a hotrod.

Regards,

Ric

[Sharroll Celby]

I feel I may now be paying for wanting a modern hotrod look blended into the '65 cobra look. Keeping her around longer is not so bad though.

Ric, I will bet that there is a "buyer for every car." Your Cobra is a little out of the norm for a lot of Cobra buyers, but people are generally all over the spectrum of what they like. Everything will sell, but at a price that reflects what it is worth to the buyer.

Now, if I can just find that right buyer for my '57 Ford Fairlane 500 hardtop, stock-ish 460/C6/9", 3.25 gears with Detroit Locker and a clean body/glass/trim (minimal rust), I will be a happy camper! (Asking $9500)

[marco246]

Originally Posted by Ric S.

Guys, great dialogue on the subject. Mine is a Unique Motorcars, not that that is the subject I just did not see the brand mentioned. My take here is the "state of the market" is just that; "the state of the market." We move where the economy moves us and or disposable income. I agree that the traditionalist will quickly find a car of choice. I built mine to learn the skills required to do the build, not keep the car. I also enjoyed the comments on how cobra builds are going beyond traditional to more of a personal touch. For example, mine is creamsicle orange/white stripes on 18" wheels/rims. The engine bay is stuffed full of a big block FE. Yes, it turns heads but that does not translate into cash toting buyers. The entire stance of the car is different. When I figure out the image upload aspect, I will load a photo. Back on point. I feel I may now be paying for wanting a modern hotrod look blended into the '65 cobra look. Keeping her around longer is not so bad though.

Now I would like suggestions on other marketing sources. Cobra Country is great as a dedicated cobra site. Where else; Auto Trader, Hemmings???

I have no regrets in selecting Unique or a cobra as my midlife crisis project. The key to any dilemma is patience and respecting the views and needs of others. I know out there somewhere is a very smart individual that is looking for an orange cobra dressed like a hotrod.

Regards,

Ric

Hey, Ric,

Think about advertising your Cobra in the Knoxville area. It's BIG ORANGE COUNTRY for sure.

Cheers,
Mark

[Ric S.]

Mark,

I actually got the comment often when I lived in SC. Too many folks thought I had selected the color because of Clemson and Tennessee having a strong following.

A very good idea indeed.

Thank you,

Ric

[gsharapa]

Wonder why things are slow...anyone watch the frickin news lately. Everything is negative, government spending like they are in a candy store and the stock market keeps diving on any bad news which is every day.... You have to remember that Cobras are purchased with disposable income and there is a lot less of that around right now.

I had 6 cobras in the past and strayed to a 2007 GT500 Shelby thinking I wanted to go the new route. Really missed Cobras and after having the GT500 for sale for 12 months I finally found someone that liked the black red stripe color combination that made me a reasonable offer.

Looking for a Cobra the last 4 months my interest were quality (many manufactures fit this bill), specific colors (black or blue) and I'm a old hot rodder so I like big HP motors. When looking at different used cars when I found the motor the colors were wrong, when I found the colors the motors were low HP or if I found the right combination the price was north of Hollywood...

I really came back to what I did with 4 of my past cars and that was look for a roller opportunity. Either a new car or used where I like everything and the seller was willing to sell it without the motor/trans.

I agree with several of you that there is usually a buyer for every car and it comes down to being patient and reasonable on your price. Every Cobra and 1 GT40 that I have sold in the past was mostly through Cobracountry.