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07-27-2010, 08:23 PM
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Jack Roush Crashes Plane in WI
"NASCAR team owner and motorsport legend Jack Roush crashed his plane while landing in Wisconsin this evening. Roush is reportedly OK, but his jet, a Raytheon/Beechcraft Premier 390, has broken in two and appears to be a total loss."
http://jalopnik.com/5598098/
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07-27-2010, 08:33 PM
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isn't that the "cat-in-the-hat"? 9, 8, 7, 6......
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07-27-2010, 08:53 PM
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Beechcraft Premier 390, I see the problem. Ya bore and stroke a tiny block 302 to 390 and your asking for trouble...
No doubt he developed a "rear main seal leak" at some point, pucker factor's being what they are. 
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07-27-2010, 09:26 PM
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If I remember correctly, that's not the first time he's crashed one of his personal planes. Perhaps Jack should leave the flying to someone who knows what the hell he's doing....... 
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07-27-2010, 09:30 PM
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I'm glad he is OK. I am also glad it was not his P-51 Mustang.
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07-27-2010, 09:58 PM
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Quote:
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If I remember correctly, that's not the first time he's crashed one of his personal planes. Perhaps Jack should leave the flying to someone who knows what the hell he's doing....... 
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Yep, he crashed a plane in 2002.
More info on Roush's crash today.
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/...anding-for-EAA
"Witnesses said the plane was coming in too low and too slow as it approached the south end of the airport’s north-south runway, which caused the plane to start to roll. The nose then hit the ground, the plane spun 180 degrees and the tail broke off.
"It looked like a bad approach and he over-corrected and then crashed," said Mark Yarnell, of New Philadelphia, Ohio."
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07-27-2010, 11:44 PM
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Quote:
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If I remember correctly, that's not the first time he's crashed one of his personal planes. Perhaps Jack should leave the flying to someone who knows what the hell he's doing....... 
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Some may not be aware, Roush spends lots of time with aircraft. I think that is where he started his business, rebuilding AC engines.
http://www.roush.com/Markets_We_Serve/Aerospace.aspx
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07-27-2010, 09:55 PM
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Yep, I admit I don't know much about flying a plane BUT common sense (or someone else) tells me I'd stay away from flying himself! I think I would leave the flying to someone else! You couldn't give me a ticket to ride as a co pilot for sure. On the other note, I'm very glad he is OK. He is a great Ford guy and a true racer! Godspeed! Matt
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07-27-2010, 10:01 PM
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Very glad to hear that Jack and passenger are OK ... Yikes! 
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07-28-2010, 12:27 AM
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Even good pilots have a bad air day now and then...
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07-28-2010, 08:00 AM
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You'd think Jack was a doctor or lawyer by the way he flies!!!!!!
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07-28-2010, 09:38 AM
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LOL Jerry
The Cat in The Hat has been lucky twice. Do you think he will go for 3 ?
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07-28-2010, 10:28 AM
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Feds will probably pull his ticket, at least for a while----
For those non-fliers----it has seemed to me over the years that many of the small plane accidents that occurred where doctors or lawyers that just had to go and crashed just short of the runway or airport----sometimes in weather, sometimes cavu--
I believe that the monied sports ( Nascar,etc) has had far too many fatal accidents by under qualified pilots/flight crew and if they as a group were treated like an airline that FAA would of shut them down---
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07-28-2010, 10:41 AM
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I doubt they will pull his ticket. They don't typically do that unless there is a FAR violation of some sort.
It can be very intimidating landing at Airventure with 200,000 people watching. The tendency is to not "go around" and screw up the traffic pattern and I'm sure he felt some of that. I've landed at the airshow well over 15 times over the years and every year is an adventure to say the least.
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07-28-2010, 11:32 AM
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In the description of several witnesses---many very experienced aviators---low,short,slow,roll, nose hit first------they will have his ticket suspended until he has done some refresher training and check ride----
Now----if-----they (whoever THRY is ) demostrate that he was following someone who slowed down ( and this could be accumulated )and further slowed down someone else, and if sort of trained effect, then I would cut him some slack, however he should of pulled out of the approach way before it got , low,slow and short to the point of a stall/spin!!!!!
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07-28-2010, 11:55 AM
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He is very fortunate. He almost drowned in his first crash when his plane hit some power lines and went down in water. I believe it was a plumber, ( not sure ), who dove in and got him out of the plane and saved his life. Maybe at his age and with two crashes now he should consider doing less flying on his own.
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07-28-2010, 12:46 PM
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Quote:
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He is very fortunate. He almost drowned in his first crash when his plane hit some power lines and went down in water. I believe it was a plumber, ( not sure ), who dove in and got him out of the plane and saved his life. Maybe at his age and with two crashes now he should consider doing less flying on his own.
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He was more fortunate than that, a rescue swimmer happened to be Jogging by wittnessed the crash and was able to save him, You average person would most likely not have been able to save him the first time. Talk about pushig it. Jack, first class commercial is not "that" bad 
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07-28-2010, 01:05 PM
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The 2002 crash:
" ...... after crashing an experimental aircraft near Troy, Ala., "
"Hicks saw the accident, and without hesitation manned his boat and paddled out to Roush's upside down plane. He dove in, through a layer of jet fuel. On his third dive, he found the cockpit, snapped it open, removed Roush from a harness, pulled him to the surface, revived him, then performed live saving CPR -- all without stable footing. He couldn't touch bottom. "
"He was trained to go down and get pilots out of airplanes," said Roush, obviously choking back tears. "Larry Hicks. How can that be? He tells his wife he loves her, then said he was going to do whatever he can. He jumps in the water with this fool that's just crashed his airplane upside down in eight feet of water. "
http://www.nascar.com/2002/news/head...ate/index.html
Prior to the accident a few weeks ago, was mentioned the flight patterns at the event are extremely busy and the accident rate is " higher " than expected. On one of the runways, there are three landings taking place at one time
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07-28-2010, 04:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Don
The 2002 crash:
" ...... after crashing an experimental aircraft near Troy, Ala., "
"Hicks saw the accident, and without hesitation manned his boat and paddled out to Roush's upside down plane. He dove in, through a layer of jet fuel. On his third dive, he found the cockpit, snapped it open, removed Roush from a harness, pulled him to the surface, revived him, then performed live saving CPR -- all without stable footing. He couldn't touch bottom. "
"He was trained to go down and get pilots out of airplanes," said Roush, obviously choking back tears. "Larry Hicks. How can that be? He tells his wife he loves her, then said he was going to do whatever he can. He jumps in the water with this fool that's just crashed his airplane upside down in eight feet of water. "
http://www.nascar.com/2002/news/head...ate/index.html
Prior to the accident a few weeks ago, was mentioned the flight patterns at the event are extremely busy and the accident rate is " higher " than expected. On one of the runways, there are three landings taking place at one time
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I would imagine this guy drives around with ROUSH engines in his daily driver, and will for life, compliments of Jack.
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07-28-2010, 12:05 PM
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Nearly all of my flying experience was in the Air Force and much of that was as in instructor in the T-38 supersonic trainer. As a result, I flew, taught and watched thousands of landings and practice stall recoveries. The dangers of low and slow were ingrained in me. But I wonder how often civilian pilots who own their own jets practice stall recognition and recovery. If most of his flying was takeoff-cruise-normal landing, his lack of practice in coping with abnormal situations might have contibuted to the crash.
One more thing. I've long been opposed to the military doing aerial flight demonstations at airshows. I've seen too many good pilots crash and die rather than suffer the embarrassment of abandoning a bad approach in front of an audience.
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