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10-17-2010, 03:55 PM
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10-17-2010, 03:57 PM
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Yes he is. I suppose that's why we love him so.  |
10-17-2010, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Supposedly the air inside the cap is "extra charged" and that's why the corrosion occurs so quickly. MSD advises you to drill a couple of extra holes in the cap to help air it out and reduce the corrosion (which I had to clean up earlier this year).
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Which makes you wonder why they don't drill holes in their own caps to begin with. Nothing like selling a product and then telling the customer to drill holes in it or you will have accelerated corrosion. 
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10-17-2010, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dcdoug
Which makes you wonder why they don't drill holes in their own caps to begin with. Nothing like selling a product and then telling the customer to drill holes in it or you will have accelerated corrosion. |
Can't argue there. Here was my previous thread on the corrosion problem: MSD Distributors - Here's Another Thing I Don't Like |
10-17-2010, 04:09 PM
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The later caps including the one being discussed are vented on the top. There is also a black one for Small Block which is used in other applications too..
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10-17-2010, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick Parker
The later caps are Vented on the top.
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It doesn't work though. I've always had the vented cap on the distributor and it still corroded up. Over on the MSD forums some of the guys drill their caps so they look like a wedge of swiss cheese. |
10-17-2010, 04:13 PM
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Yes that was posted in their Tech Tips years ago to help eliminate Ionization.
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10-17-2010, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick Parker
Yes that was posted in their Tech Tips years ago to help eliminate Ionization.
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The little iron ball in the center of the cap explodes for no reason, too.  Even if you bend the rotor prong up. |
10-17-2010, 04:58 PM
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The little iron ball in the center of the cap explodes for no reason, too. Even if you bend the rotor prong up. |
Yes, we all know MSD is awful. But the funny part is that Patrick painted his cap and drilled holes in it, when he could have just purchased a black one with holes in it already. 
And don't give me the "I saved a buck" story when you spent $25 per LED light bulb for your rear tail lights to shine brighter.
More bench racing stories to discuss at the oyster bar tomorrow.  |
10-17-2010, 05:00 PM
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My 44 year old Ford distributor is looking pretty good now.
Amazing that MSD can't fix those problems.
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10-17-2010, 05:02 PM
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10-17-2010, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
Yes, we all know MSD is awful. But the funny part is that Patrick painted his cap and drilled holes in it, when he could have just purchased a black one with holes in it already.
And don't give me the "I saved a buck" story.... |
Yes, admittedly it does sound a bit stupid. But with that extra $25 in my pocket I can afford to hang out at the oyster bar just a wee bit longer.  |
10-17-2010, 05:03 PM
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Certainly didn't mean to do any harm to anyone....
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Awwww-we know that buddy! You're showing your sensitive side.
Cheer up and go back to your old self---denigrate the crap out of some FFR's, hydraulic lifter guys and non-ERA $5000 IRS-owners!
You didn't mean them any harm either-just a good dose o'salts. 
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10-17-2010, 05:09 PM
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Which makes you wonder why they don't drill holes in their own caps to begin with. Nothing like selling a product and then telling the customer to drill holes in it or you will have accelerated corrosion. |
Hey Doug, you're doin' pretty good for a walk-on here...
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10-17-2010, 05:16 PM
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Yes, admittedly it does sound a bit stupid. But with that extra $25 in my pocket I can afford to hang out at the oyster bar just a wee bit longer. |
That story could change when that newly painted cap gets a few heat cycles on it and then goes through one of those tortuous East Coast summers.
"Hello Jegs?"
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10-17-2010, 05:20 PM
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Oh and I forgot. GO GIANTS!
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O man-now it's dog pile on Patrick!!!!! 
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10-17-2010, 05:22 PM
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O man-now it's dog pile on Patrick!!!!! |
It's been that way for years.... You watch, the Colts will probably score 50 points tonight. Kickoff is moments away.... |
10-17-2010, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick Parker
The later caps including the one being discussed are vented on the top. There is also a black one for Small Block which is used in other applications too..
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do you have a part # for this black cap for a small block ford 351 W |
10-17-2010, 09:16 PM
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Max:
Yes # 84313, its the same as the red one used in their current production for the Small Diameter Billet Distributors. Distributor numbers are displayed in this link as well as Photo of the Cap. I use this one myself. If you have an early production Small Diameter Billet Distributor, they used two aluminum hold down clamps, they are not used with the new caps. Caps fit early and late production distributors. NOTE: The distributor model numbers shown are not complete. Go to the distributor section and check caps in "Accesories". The 8431 is the red cap (w/o rotor). THen Scroll down in "Accessories" it shows the same incomplete numbers.
Black:
http://www.msdignition.com/Products/...545,_8546.aspx
Red:
http://www.msdignition.com/Products/...545,_8546.aspx
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10-18-2010, 04:27 AM
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I'm running a points style early Chevy Standard Ignition "Blue Streak" cap and rotor on my MSD Pro Billet Dizzy. There's no drilled holes or thrown 'n read chicken bones about it... I've got 3 years on the cap/rotor and I'll probably put another couple on 'em too.
The cap is the prettiest Ford Blue that ever graced a dizzy too 
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