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RodKnock 11-11-2010 03:14 PM

Patrick needs to perseverate on something. So he perseverates on a CSX manual.

100,000+ Cobras have been sold here in the US and maybe 5-10 guys here on Club Cobra could have used one.

Again, I know my limitations and can't, but most folks with mechanical abilities, like Ernie, Doug, Chas, Patrick, Rick, Brent, Tommy, Fred, Wilma, Barney and Betty can work on these cars because they're very simple. No manual is needed. Most of you guys can dissect the car in 50 different ways without reading a novella to help you. You have the gift.

Excaliber 11-11-2010 03:15 PM

Heck, Club Cobra is the ultimate manual for all things "Cobra". The search engine could stand to be better though, that 60 second delay really drives me up a wall.

So often I DON'T get the result I expect to find, and THEN have to wait for the timeout before I can enter different seach criteria.

Computerworks, you following this?? Man, we need help, the Club Cobra "Manual" to often sucks.

RodKnock 11-11-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dcdoug (Post 1089120)
Let us know when you get the real inventory together. It'd be fun to see it. Maybe Patrickt will loan us all the dough for Xmas.

I would be very interested to see the list too. I think Doug will take Rat Poison's mudd bogger tires off my hands, which will make parting out the truck easier. :LOL:

ERA Chas 11-11-2010 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dcdoug (Post 1089119)
.. ERAChas starts telling me to stop over-thinking the issue. :cool:

DC-you're over-thinking my advice...%/

BBQCYCLEWERKES 11-11-2010 03:34 PM

Its going to take me some time to itemize all that is there, but I will post as soon as I do. This an not an excuse or a fade away. We really do have this stuff and I'm alittle overwelmed by it all. He also had Model A's and T's, lots of Ford flat head V-8's, old steel wheel farm tractors, and just a bunch of stuff I really don't know too much about. I'm a Mopar guy and working around all this ford stuff is what got me motovated to buy my BDR Cobra 3 weeks ago. Bob Q.

Rick Parker 11-11-2010 03:37 PM

Focus guys, this is getting WAY off topic. Maybe move to a new thread?

patrickt 11-11-2010 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excaliber (Post 1089123)
So often I DON'T get the result I expect to find, and THEN have to wait for the timeout before I can enter different seach criteria.

Computerworks, you following this?? Man, we need help, the Club Cobra "Manual" to often sucks.

Ernie, use Google instead and use the Advance Search option and limit the domain to clubcobra.com -- that works much, much better than the search function that's on the site itself.

RodKnock 11-11-2010 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1089133)
Ernie, use Google instead and use the Advance Search option and limit the domain to clubcobra.com -- that works much, much better than the search function that's on the site itself.

You see. He's not totally useless. :p

Excaliber 11-11-2010 03:57 PM

I use the Google a lot already (mostly to figure out what the heck Patrick is talking about). :)

It seem's like a reasonable request to "fix" the Club Cobra search engine, as for many, it is the logical first step in using the "manual".

dcdoug 11-11-2010 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Parker (Post 1089130)
Focus guys, this is getting WAY off topic. Maybe move to a new thread?

What was this thread about again? :p

patrickt 11-11-2010 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcdoug (Post 1089176)
What was this thread about again? :p

It was about how great I am and how stinky RodKnock is....;)

Excaliber 11-11-2010 06:51 PM

Thread drift? Never happen!

We had the OP's original problem handled a couple of pages ago, now were just sitting around the bar making small talk until we get a report back on who is going to buy/install the new shaft. :) Roush perhaps?

patrickt 11-11-2010 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Excaliber (Post 1089190)
Thread drift?

Didn't you have a bad experience drifting in Hawaii? Tell us the story again.:)

dcdoug 11-12-2010 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Excaliber (Post 1089190)
We had the OP's original problem handled a couple of pages ago, now were just sitting around the bar making small talk until we get a report back on who is going to buy/install the new shaft. :)

That's kind of the way I look at it too. Although I am mostly at the bar with RodKnock making small talk and, uh, supervising. :o

Excaliber 11-12-2010 09:38 AM

Well I did "drift" my Excalibur for a short time. Drifting in the USA started in Hawaii, the Japanese influence and all. I quit when over time the local guys became a LOT more serious, it got to the point where you had to be willing to put your car in the wall to score points with more radical moves.

What really ended it for me was the day I lost my brakes coming into a hairpin corner at the end of the back stretch at a speed impossible to make that corner. I was going into the tire wall for sure. I stabbed the clutch and pulled the gear shift hard into 2nd and then dumped the clutch. That locked up the rear wheels, put the motor into high over rev rpm and threw the car sideways. It scrubbed off enough speed so that was able to "drift" through that corner sideways and it looked spectacular, like I had it all under control. I needed a full change of clothes following that and decided I had had enough drifting for a life time. :)

That was the number 1 thing on my mind during open track at SAAC-35. What if I lost the brakes, suddenly without warning? What would I do? Thankfully the brakes faded slowly enough (still, pretty quick though) and I got enough warning to exit the track.

It's not a bad idea to punish your brakes in some controlled manner to the point where they give out, fade or whatever. So you have an idea of what to expect when they go away. On the Excalibur I experienced a very hard pedal, no warning, no stopping, just push on it as hard as you could and nothing would happen. On the ERA, the pedal went soft, still some brake, low pedal, mushy, just the opposite of what the Excal was like!

RodKnock 11-12-2010 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcdoug (Post 1089317)
That's kind of the way I look at it too. Although I am mostly at the bar with RodKnock making small talk and, uh, supervising. :o


Has the new rocker arm assembly been delivered? They're running a little low on the oysters at the bar. :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:





Hopefully, not too esoteric for Tim. :LOL:

N2VENOM 11-12-2010 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1089322)
Has the new rocker arm assembly been delivered? They're running a little low on the oysters at the bar. :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:





Hopefully, not too esoteric for Tim. :LOL:

Roush shipped out the parts. I'm tracking UPS and they will be here on Tuesday. I will take pictures of the repair and post them. :)

Jamo 11-12-2010 10:50 AM

BTW, kudos to N2VENOM for allowing some fun, but monitoring his own thread and bringing it back to the discussion regularly. Well done. ;)

Excaliber 11-12-2010 10:56 AM

It was noted in an earlier post by N2Venom, that Roush has said the warranty is over. I find that troubling, at least. The nut should not have backed off, it was also indicated that a couple of other nuts may have been (or is that "were") loose as well.

Frankly, if so, this a manufacturers error, a Roush error. If they have a known issue with rocker shaft bolts/nuts coming loose steps should be taken to address that issue. Locktite perhaps, or a note that those bolts/nuts in question should be retorqued. If it's a rare occurence, that would only support a defect in assembly technique, somebody didn't use the torque wrench properly.

As was previously noted the expected cost of repair parts is $600. That must include substantially more than just the rocker shaft!!! What else was damaged that would justify such an exceedingly high price for parts that appear to only a broken shaft, possibly a new nut or bolt? Still smells awfully fishy to me...

N2VENOM 11-12-2010 11:17 AM

I have to wait and see what the assembly parts include. It is true that the other nuts were loose. On another note, I am planning to do another KMP. David and I are talking about the details. Let's say this KMP will be a first!!:)


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