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11-12-2010, 12:07 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 427 S/C, Twin Paxton 511 FE
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Darren posted this issue on 11/9 and he's getting the parts via UPS one week later. Not too shabby if you ask me. I know you're not going to get Jack Roush on the phone like you would Keith Craft or Tom Lucas but still, not bad. He keeps his KMP nice and shiny but he tracks it as well. Things happen to engines built by ANY builder.
Darren, weren't you getting a Daytona from KMP or was that a rumor? What are you up to?
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11-12-2010, 12:19 PM
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As I posted before the profit in these engines are comical, pick up a summit catalog and add up the parts, dart block, forged pistons, arp heads, scat rotating assembly, pistons, camshaft, timing gear, carb and these guys are making NOTHING, ZERO, why they do it is beyond me. Absolute best case scenerio on a stroked 351 using a dart block and getting 500 hp i bet the profit margin is less than $3.5K. Now the guy has to pay for his shop, his tools, his dyno, MY WARRANTY, a builder gets one warranty that needs 100% rebuild there goes his profit on the next 4 engines, oh wait, forgot about advertisement, machine work etc.
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Originally Posted by rodneym
Darren posted this issue on 11/9 and he's getting the parts via UPS one week later. Not too shabby if you ask me. I know you're not going to get Jack Roush on the phone like you would Keith Craft or Tom Lucas but still, not bad. He keeps his KMP nice and shiny but he tracks it as well. Things happen to engines built by ANY builder.
Darren, weren't you getting a Daytona from KMP or was that a rumor? What are you up to?
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11-12-2010, 12:20 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
Posts: 9,592
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Originally Posted by rodneym
Darren, weren't you getting a Daytona from KMP or was that a rumor? What are you up to?
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I want to hear more about this new project too.
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11-12-2010, 12:27 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Santa Rosa Valley,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham KMP500 LeMans- Roush 451 Shelby block; KMP Flip-top with cammer: KMP 289 Bronze under construction.
Posts: 285
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Originally Posted by rodneym
Darren, weren't you getting a Daytona from KMP or was that a rumor? What are you up to?
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My KMP LaMans fulfilled my needs for a hardtop. My next project was going to be the KMP Daytona, but decided on something a little different. David and I will be posting our plans in the next week. We are currently working out the details. My next build will be very very cool....
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11-12-2010, 01:06 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 427 S/C, Twin Paxton 511 FE
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Originally Posted by Excaliber
Fact remains, this is a DEFECT in workmanship, not a bad part, not a "stuff happens" moment, not a "bitter pill". This aint right, straight up, Roush should man up and take responsibilty, out of warranty or not. 2,000 miles? Violate warranty if you re-torque anything, and if you don't, you won't find out there is a problem?
Roush is done in my book. The thought, "a fool and his money..." comes to mind in that regard.
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I don't believe you can quantify that statement. Did the builder simply not use torque specs? Did he not follow procedure? Maybe, maybe not. Very hard to tell. That's why a warranty exists. True, an indy builder will give you better service, I'll grant you that. But I've witnessed questionable service from small guys, too.
There's a local Cobra that had a HTOB give in 400 miles. Who's fault? Car exchanged hands a couple times and work was not covered by the installer.
Another Cobra with a name build had an engine that was un-tunable. Builder had specs all wrong. The local rework was covered but there's a term that came with it, "blood from a turnip". (BTW, the names have been omitted to protect the...innocent?).
Let's just say if Roush was involved in these incidents it would have been a witch hunt. I've seen builders literally coddled like invalids on these threads. Kudos to Keith and Tom and others who will cover out of warranty engines without hesitation but Roush isn't a mom and pop shop, for better and/or worse.
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