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12-07-2010, 06:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
That looks like credible evidence.
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Unless you put a torch to the wheel material I will continue to have my doubts. Without hijacking the thread, can you quickly remind me what transmission you have in your ERA?
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12-07-2010, 07:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Unless you put a torch to the wheel material I will continue to have my doubts. Without hijacking the thread, can you quickly remind me what transmission you have in your ERA?
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All you'd have to do is pick it up. 30% lighter is pretty noticeable.
Are you saying you don't trust Halibrand, or the folks claiming to have magnesium wheels? 
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Last edited by rodneym; 12-07-2010 at 07:18 PM..
Reason: forgot a word
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12-07-2010, 07:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rodneym
All you'd have to do is pick it up. 30% lighter is pretty noticeable.
Are you saying you don't trust Halibrand, or the folks claiming to have magnesium wheels? 
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No, I just want to see Chas set his wheels on fire.  I vaguely remember some sort of warning that if you throw water on burning magnesium it does something peculiar -- like the oxygen and hydrogen separate or something and when the flame hits it it's pretty cool to watch.
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12-07-2010, 07:25 PM
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I'm sure the military has all sorts of old FED-STD's on that stuff (what's left of them, anyways).
One of my employees takes magnesium from his friends shop and they shoot at it in the desert. He says it's pretty fun.
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12-07-2010, 08:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
That looks like credible evidence.
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Love the dripping sarcasm.
Are the wheels here yet?
There's a pic here somewhere on CC of an alloy CSX4000 with magnesium wheels that turned a long time ago. I love that look.
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12-08-2010, 10:05 AM
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The last time Halibrand sold magnesium Cobra wheels in 2003-2006, the fronts were $765/ea and the rears were $795/each, which is $3,120 for a set of 4.
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12-08-2010, 10:20 AM
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I'm going to use the Gibbs oil product, if I ever get a set of these wheels.
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12-08-2010, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
I'm going to use the Gibbs oil product, if I ever get a set of these wheels.
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You mean "when" you get a set of these wheels.
patrickt and 601HP are on the fence. A very sharp, white picket fence. 
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12-08-2010, 10:50 AM
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You mean "when" you get a set of these wheels.
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I'll remain skeptical until the wheels arrive on my doorstep.
Knowing Patrick as little as I do, I would think he's not buying the mag wheels. He's too pragmatic for magnesium and sees little to no benefit.
(Did the reverse psychology work?)
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12-08-2010, 02:53 PM
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The gold hue of the centers probably wouldn't look right with his beige/titanium paint anyway.
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12-08-2010, 03:15 PM
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Rodney, this is great of you to make the effort to organize a group buy. I did this once on another forum and was amazed how many people got involved when "opportunity meets price." Or, more so with this case, "Availability meets opportunity."
Having said that, I will humbly have to decline though. A quick acceleration to 3.92% would also require professional counsel for how best to manage divorce proceedings. 
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12-08-2010, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ACademic
Rodney, this is great of you to make the effort to organize a group buy. I did this once on another forum and was amazed how many people got involved when "opportunity meets price." Or, more so with this case, "Availability meets opportunity."
Having said that, I will humbly have to decline though. A quick acceleration to 3.92% would also require professional counsel for how best to manage divorce proceedings. 
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Well there's your problem. That 'wife' thing. She's slowing you down 3.92%.
Thanks for the kind words.
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12-09-2010, 10:36 AM
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Got an email from Richard at Halibrand.
He's getting contacted be people but they aren't saying anything on our thread here!
Still working on the price.

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12-09-2010, 11:51 AM
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"Got an email from Richard at Halibrand.
He's getting contacted be people but they aren't saying anything on our thread here!"
So Fran has the OEM as a competitor for his new wheel venture. Or is Fran Richard's customer too?
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12-09-2010, 12:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
So Fran has the OEM as a competitor for his new wheel venture. Or is Fran Richard's customer too?
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Fran is a competitor to Halibrand and could not have the name Halibrand embossed anywhere on his production run of wheels. Both are made by M&A castings as you probably know.
I suspect that some people don't want to be "out-ed" in public, so they're contacting Richard privately. I don't care, just want the wheels made.
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12-09-2010, 12:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
I suspect that some people don't want to be "out-ed" in public...
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Yep, I hate it when that happens. 
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12-09-2010, 01:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Fran is a competitor to Halibrand and could not have the name Halibrand embossed anywhere on his production run of wheels. Both are made by M&A castings as you probably know.
I suspect that some people don't want to be "out-ed" in public, so they're contacting Richard privately. I don't care, just want the wheels made.
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Of course Halibrand owns their tools.
It's no secret that M&A casts Halibrand's wheels.
Pretty sure Fran uses M&A too. If not, someone inform us.
Did Fran invest in his own tool? That's the $64,000 question.
When I said people were contacting Richard, I meant interested parties. Not anything peculiar.
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12-09-2010, 02:17 PM
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I'm thinking I could just spray this on my wheels.

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12-09-2010, 02:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rodneym
Of course Halibrand owns their tools.
It's no secret that M&A casts Halibrand's wheels.
Pretty sure Fran uses M&A too. If not, someone inform us.
Did Fran invest in his own tool? That's the $64,000 question.
When I said people were contacting Richard, I meant interested parties. Not anything peculiar.
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I wasn't insinuating anything peculiar.
Yes, Fran uses M&A too. We could too (use M&A), if we wanted to be wheel tycoons. 
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