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BBQCYCLEWERKES 01-20-2011 09:07 AM
CSX 1001 at Russo and Steele
 
Saw a red Shelby Cobra CSX # 1001. States this is an original Shelby Cobra owned by Carroll Shelby. I later determined this Cobra was built in 2004 or so. This is one of the orig recreations using the orig parts if I remember correctly. Is this correct? Any info on this Cobra would be appreciated.

computerworks 01-20-2011 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BBQCYCLEWERKES (Post 1104027)
Saw a red Shelby Cobra CSX # 1001. States this is an original Shelby Cobra owned by Carroll Shelby. I later determined this Cobra was built in 2004 or so. This is one of the orig recreations using the orig parts if I remember correctly. Is this correct? Any info on this Cobra would be appreciated.
No, not original...not built with original parts.

The CSX1000 series were special alloy cars done a few years ago...that were sourced from a UK panel shop, pounded out in a similar manner as the old ones were...but built as a replica with all new components.

Don 01-20-2011 09:29 AM
From Russo & Steele:

http://www.russoandsteele.com/collec...7-CSX1001/6223

They refer to the Cobra as 1965

computerworks 01-20-2011 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Don (Post 1104035)
From Russo & Steele:
They refer to the Cobra as 1965
Doesn't everybody? :LOL:

Don 01-20-2011 09:37 AM
Effective 10-1-09, CT has a Model Year Registration law for any kit/replica cars, " Model year is the year the body most closely resembles ".........soon to have a number of 1965 or 1966 or 1932 to 1934 etc etc

However, make remains as Composite, CT name for kit cars/replicas

jeffy 01-20-2011 10:11 AM
The "original" Carroll Shelby title was dated 2006.

Great Asp 01-20-2011 04:16 PM
Original Lakewood scatter shield, where do you get those NOS?

:LOL:

E

somedayaurora 01-20-2011 07:04 PM
Was there today , my Uncle said " Hey a real cobra owned by Carrol Shelby himself ! " its even " confusing " in person . Besides that great collection of cars . I liked the selection of cars better than BJ . BJ had had the Vegas thing going for it , kinda like a expo with tons of venders , some even car related lol.
sdr

BBQCYCLEWERKES 01-20-2011 07:52 PM
Agree, BJ becoming more a event to be seen at that anything else. Way too much Hollywood going on there. The cars don't seem to have the quality as they once did. I think Russo and Steele have the better cars this year. Not too many Cobras at either auction though. Probably 6 to 8 at each auction. Most are CSX models but found 1 guy who had a CR cobra. Said he thinks it will sell for $80,000 to $120,000. It did have a FE 427 in it. Couldn't tell if it was a top or side oiler though. I didn't want to tell the guy his sale price estimation was high, just wished him luck in the auction. I'll have to keep an eye on thisw one to see what it seels for. I can't see it going for more the $50,000, but I hope I'm wrong.

gjcomb 01-20-2011 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BBQCYCLEWERKES (Post 1104167)
Agree, BJ becoming more a event to be seen at that anything else. Way too much Hollywood going on there. The cars don't seem to have the quality as they once did. I think Russo and Steele have the better cars this year. Not too many Cobras at either auction though. Probably 6 to 8 at each auction. Most are CSX models but found 1 guy who had a CR cobra. Said he thinks it will sell for $80,000 to $120,000. It did have a FE 427 in it. Couldn't tell if it was a top or side oiler though. I didn't want to tell the guy his sale price estimation was high, just wished him luck in the auction. I'll have to keep an eye on thisw one to see what it seels for. I can't see it going for more the $50,000, but I hope I'm wrong.
I was at Russo and Steele today to check out what cars were available. Were you referring to a yellow Cobra that had 4-5 trophies sitting on the passenger seat? The car is a Mid-States Cobra replica - I spoke to the owner briefly - he mentioned the same pricing estimate ($80-120K).

He was selling the car to start work on another Cobra. I stuck around to see what this puppy would end at.

Initial bidding started at $70k, but went backwards until $20k; a few seconds later it went up to $45K-$52k and figured it would not go up any further. There was a reserve that the owner wanted to get - $62k.

Final bidding price was...$70K - SSSooolllddd!!

BBQCYCLEWERKES 01-21-2011 04:56 AM
Was that a Mid-States Cobra? I thought the Classic Roadster was the only model that had the extended side doors. The firewall looks identical to a CR also. I crawled underneath and the frame looks like a CR too. The dash looked different though as it was extended down in the center area to mount a radio. The owner told me it was a Classic Roadster also, so I'm now confused. Its not above me to be incorrect when it comes to these Cobras. When I looked at the Cobra, the trophys were in the front of the car. The Cobra also had silver stripes. Did we look at the same Cobra? I think there was only 1 yellow Cobra there.

Great Asp 01-21-2011 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by gjcomb (Post 1104199)
I was at Russo and Steele today to check out what cars were available. Were you referring to a yellow Cobra that had 4-5 trophies sitting on the passenger seat? The car is a Mid-States Cobra replica - I spoke to the owner briefly - he mentioned the same pricing estimate ($80-120K).

He was selling the car to start work on another Cobra. I stuck around to see what this puppy would end at.

Initial bidding started at $70k, but went backwards until $20k; a few seconds later it went up to $45K-$52k and figured it would not go up any further. There was a reserve that the owner wanted to get - $62k.

Final bidding price was...$70K - SSSooolllddd!!
I do not understand that (I am not bashing Mid-States), how is a Mid-States worth $70K? I would think you could buy a normal Mid-States for 20-40K.

E

somedayaurora 01-21-2011 08:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gjcomb (Post 1104199)
I was at Russo and Steele today to check out what cars were available. Were you referring to a yellow Cobra that had 4-5 trophies sitting on the passenger seat? The car is a Mid-States Cobra replica - I spoke to the owner briefly - he mentioned the same pricing estimate ($80-120K).

He was selling the car to start work on another Cobra. I stuck around to see what this puppy would end at.

Initial bidding started at $70k, but went backwards until $20k; a few seconds later it went up to $45K-$52k and figured it would not go up any further. There was a reserve that the owner wanted to get - $62k.

Final bidding price was...$70K - SSSooolllddd!!
are you kidding me !!!!! I saw that , it wasn't that nice . didn't a E.R.A. sell last year for $30k . Saw same thing at BJ ; Cobra with a mustang 2 front end and brutal dash went for $42.9 (believe it at least had a date correct 427 , but a auto ) ..........what gives ?
SDR

Karl Bebout 01-21-2011 08:50 AM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

somedayaurora 01-21-2011 08:54 AM
sorry Karl was it /is it now yours ?
sdr

BBQCYCLEWERKES 01-21-2011 09:25 AM
Looked at the pictures on the Russo & Steele website. Car did sell yesterday. From all the pictures, It does appear to be a Classic Roadster. The owner also told me it was a Classic Roadster when I questioned him. Wow, I can't believe it sold for $70,000. With the buyers premium, that puts the purchase price at $77.000 if they have the same buyer premium charge of 10% of the sale price like BJ. I know it had a year correct 427 side oiler, but still $70,000 seems high. I guess the economy is coming back or the auction frenzy is still alive.

Double Venom 01-21-2011 10:21 AM
Classis Roadsters had two different OEM type dashes. One straight across, with the supporting lower arms.

The other dash an option had a dash that wrapped around both corners of the dash to the doors and a center piece that went all the way down to the tunnel. This area was made for #1 Heater controls
#2 was for mounting a radio- although a builder could use the extra space for what ever was wanted.
DV
PS. The Basic Mid-STATES NOR CONTEMPORARY had the extended doors like CR's

gjcomb 01-22-2011 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BBQCYCLEWERKES (Post 1104227)
Was that a Mid-States Cobra? I thought the Classic Roadster was the only model that had the extended side doors. The firewall looks identical to a CR also. I crawled underneath and the frame looks like a CR too. The dash looked different though as it was extended down in the center area to mount a radio. The owner told me it was a Classic Roadster also, so I'm now confused. Its not above me to be incorrect when it comes to these Cobras. When I looked at the Cobra, the trophys were in the front of the car. The Cobra also had silver stripes. Did we look at the same Cobra? I think there was only 1 yellow Cobra there.
BBQCYCLEWERKES;
I could have been mistaken on the builder, since we were nearby the tent where the auctions were taken place (loud bidder), but I thought that he mentioned Mid-States to me (he also mentioned that he did not build the car)...he sure had a lot of trophies sitting in the passenger seat!!
I really wanted to hear what final price this car would bring in, and so I made it a point to stick around the main tent and wait to see what happened.

The final numbers were accurate on the screen - $70k. The reserve on the car by the owner was $62 or $62.5k, and when the bid went above this, the bidders were screaming all over the place that the reserve was met, the reserve was met.

timsullivan 01-22-2011 07:53 PM
Stupid money....
 
Guess this just proves the rule that at most of these car auctions guys with more money than brains spend "stupid money".....

razerwire 01-22-2011 08:19 PM
Looks like my Bennett space frame cobra is going up in value if classic cobra brings $77,000.00 and superformance is listed for $66,900.00 here on club cobra. Thats a good thing, one less thing to worry about.


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