Which original Cobra was used to splash your replica?

[SunDude]

hmm, seems to me that this thread is being hijacked by the Great Train Robbers...

...any chance we can return to the original topic now...?

[Clayboy]

Has anyone found any information on the origins of the Superformance body yet?
Bob

[392cobra]

I read that they combined the scans of a FFR and a Street Beast for the Superformance

[ACademic]

Originally Posted by 392cobra

I read that they combined the scans of a FFR and a Street Beast for the Superformance

Today's sarcastic humor brought to you by two bouncing boobs.

If my fading memory serves me correctly, most of the proportions on a Superformance were measured from an original (just not splashed in total).

[PSB]

I have no idea which car Integrity (now Hunter) splashed their body from, but it must have been a wide-hipped street car, as there are no flares on the rear fenders.

Pete

[rustyBob]

SunDude i sent you a pm.....

[redmt]

Originally Posted by rustyBob

SunDude i sent you a pm.....

Good morning Bob

[rustyBob]

Hey John...

[kris-kincaid]

SunDude, are you going to edit your initial post to reflect accurate information?

[RallySnake]

SunDude,

This is one of the best pieces of information I have seen on the forum. Like most things in life, it may not be perfect. But, I really enjoyed learning something about the actual car that my Arntz replicates.

Thank you very much,
RS

[Mike_I]

It was rumored that the Midstates body was the same as the contemporary. They sure look the same to me. Don't know if that means it was splashed from 3045 and/or the contemporary copy?

Also, didn't FFR buy contemporary's mold and use it for the MKiV? If so, the MKiV would be from 3045.

[SunDude]

Originally Posted by Mike_I

It was rumored that the Midstates body was the same as the contemporary. They sure look the same to me. Don't know if that means it was splashed from 3045 and/or the contemporary copy?

Also, didn't FFR buy contemporary's mold and use it for the MKiV? If so, the MKiV would be from 3045.

I've been emailing the previous owner of Midstates to see if I can answer your question, but so far it doesn't sound like the molds were taken from Contemporary Classics. I will post any updates I get.

My understanding was that FFR had acquired the 427 molds from Contemporary, but didn't use them for the MkI to MkIII cars. Can anyone confirm this?

Contemporary also sold a Daytona Coupe and a 289 FIA. The Daytona Coupe molds were acquired by Lesher Motorsports; does anyone know whether Contemporary had splashed an original coupe and, if so, which one? Does anyone know which 289 FIA they used?

[SunDude]

Originally Posted by kris-kincaid

SunDude, are you going to edit your initial post to reflect accurate information?

You may be right, but I can't seem to find anything to verify your information as accurate.

Let me start by noting that Computerworks (Ron) has identified CSX3178 -- a car that Carroll Shelby has owned since new -- as being the basis for the CSX4000-series cars from HST Automotive.

But when you think about it, there is no easy answer to the question, "which CSX was used as the basis for the Shelby American continuation cars?", as the company offers several different models and has used several different suppliers.

As Kirkham supplies the ally-bodied continuation cars, isn't it safe to say that those cars are also based on CSX3104? But what about the CSX1000 cars from AC Cars in the Lubinsky era, or the CSX7000 and CSX8000 cars? And did they use different cars for the fibreglass vs aluminum bodied versions?

So I checked the SAAC registry to see if I could find anything to support your assertion that CSX3057 was used for the CSX4000-series cars, but I couldn't find anything either way.

CSX4000 'glass car production started in late 1996 and HST only started supplying cars in 2003, so I suppose it's possible that CSX3057 was used to create the molds for the early cars. Could be why it wasn't finished until 1998.

In the end, we might need to ask the SAAC Registrar to help clear this mystery up.

[computerworks]

CSX3178 has been noted as the "host" for Shelby's cars....with shots of the body on a stand during that time frame.

But Kris has the first-person insight and I would take his input.

[SunDude]

Ron, it would be great if you and Kris could sort out the facts and let us know what's what here. I don't have access to any of the peopple or documents to do this myself. I'd be happy to accept whatever you guys can determine, as fact.

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by SunDude

Ron, it would be great if you and Kris could sort out the facts and let us know what's what here.

Actually, it's not that big a deal for me to know which is which.

Your quest, not mine.

It was either 3178 or the Kimmins body.

[kris-kincaid]

It was CSX3057

Originally Posted by SunDude

Ron, it would be great if you and Kris could sort out the facts and let us know what's what here. I don't have access to any of the peopple or documents to do this myself. I'd be happy to accept whatever you guys can determine, as fact.

[SunDude]

This just in, from the good folks over at SCOF...

Apparently the body for the Superformance MkIII was originally based on the Contemporary Classics Cobra replica, which itself was based on CSX3045.

Jimmy Price ended up making several important revisions to the body shape, both to address some imperfections in the Contemporary body and to improve some of the aesthetics. Click here for the full story.

I imagine this could end up being a very familiar story. That is, that many of the replicas we enjoy were themselves based on other replica makes, instead of original Cobras.

[ASO544]

Any info on how Backdraft Racing got their mold?

[1ntCobra]

So if the CSX4000/6000 fiberglass continuation cars are based off of CSX3057 which is a completion car with a Kimmins body, what was the Kimmins body based off of?