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Old 01-23-2011, 08:08 PM
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FFR was going to use #198, Dick Smith's car, for their new bodies. Not sure if they actually did or not.
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Old 01-24-2011, 04:04 AM
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Getting info like that tells me your a dedicated Cobra enthusiast.I know I am but not to that level.Good info to know and add to a cars portfolio.
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FFR was going to use #198, Dick Smith's car, for their new bodies. Not sure if they actually did or not.
FFR used dick's car as a target for the digital scan system they used to create the "Mk IV" car. They did not "splash" the car but installed a buttload of small dots that the digital scanner uses as reference pionts. It is assumed that they then tweaked the scan to create a symetrical design as well as modifing the scanned information to suit their needs.
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FFR used dick's car as a target for the digital scan system they used to create the "Mk IV" car. They did not "splash" the car but installed a buttload of small dots that the digital scanner uses as reference pionts. It is assumed that they then tweaked the scan to create a symetrical design as well as modifing the scanned information to suit their needs.
Sounds like FFR used modern techniques/technology to achieve the same goal as a traditional splash. Perhaps I'll add FFR MkIV and CSX3035 to the list, then.
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Sounds like FFR used modern techniques/technology to achieve the same goal as a traditional splash. Perhaps I'll add FFR MkIV and CSX3035 to the list, then.
At the risk of ruffling FFR owner feathers, that would be an erroneous correlation in my opinion. I have spent several hours overlaying Mk4 pics over 3035 and its just not a derivative in the same way a "splash" is derived. The efforts to deviate from 3035, either intentional or otherwise, make it too different to be compared in the same way that CCX is derived from 3045.

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At the risk of ruffling FFR owner feathers, that would be an erroneous correlation in my opinion. I have spent several hours overlaying Mk4 pics over 3035 and its just not a derivative in the same way a "splash" is derived. The efforts to deviate from 3035, either intentional or otherwise, make it too different to be compared in the same way that CCX is derived from 3045.

Thanks for putting in this effort.
gotta be a tough way to do it. Why not splash it ?????



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Anyone know how the hel they made the Classic Roadsters. It has different dimensions ???


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gotta be a tough way to do it. Why not splash it ?????.
The process of digitizing and scanning in the 3035 body would have been very straight-forward using today's technology. As to why FFR chose to not to reproduce the 3035 is anybody's guess. I could not get any of the body lines to match up between 3035 and the new car. The nose is different, as are the door lines/openings as well as the rear fenders. Maybe they are saving the scan it for a Dick Smith tribute car or something.

"Splashing" a body the old-fashioned way, especially off of a fragile aluminum car is tedious but not rocket science. The story I was told about when the Hurricane car was copied was that it took all of a day to take the molds from the body. But they did it while the CSX car was assembled, and they did it in pieces. So the hard part was then to get it all back together into a unified body mold.
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The process of digitizing and scanning in the 3035 body would have been very straight-forward using today's technology. As to why FFR chose to not to reproduce the 3035 is anybody's guess. I could not get any of the body lines to match up between 3035 and the new car. The nose is different, as are the door lines/openings as well as the rear fenders. Maybe they are saving the scan it for a Dick Smith tribute car or something.

"Splashing" a body the old-fashioned way, especially off of a fragile aluminum car is tedious but not rocket science. The story I was told about when the Hurricane car was copied was that it took all of a day to take the molds from the body. But they did it while the CSX car was assembled, and they did it in pieces. So the hard part was then to get it all back together into a unified body mold.
I think FFR "morphed" the digitized version of 3035 rather than splashing it. Most likely an economic choice to keep the existing frame (for the most part) and morphed the body to the existing frame and changing the shape in the process. An improvement but still worlds apart from a "splash" of 3035.
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