Which original Cobra was used to splash your replica?

[CobraEd]

Originally Posted by elmariachi

At the risk of ruffling FFR owner feathers, that would be an erroneous correlation in my opinion. I have spent several hours overlaying Mk4 pics over 3035 and its just not a derivative in the same way a "splash" is derived. The efforts to deviate from 3035, either intentional or otherwise, make it too different to be compared in the same way that CCX is derived from 3045.

Thanks for putting in this effort.

gotta be a tough way to do it. Why not splash it ?????



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[CobraEd]

Anyone know how the hel they made the Classic Roadsters. It has different dimensions ???


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[elmariachi]

Originally Posted by CobraEd

gotta be a tough way to do it. Why not splash it ?????.

The process of digitizing and scanning in the 3035 body would have been very straight-forward using today's technology. As to why FFR chose to not to reproduce the 3035 is anybody's guess. I could not get any of the body lines to match up between 3035 and the new car. The nose is different, as are the door lines/openings as well as the rear fenders. Maybe they are saving the scan it for a Dick Smith tribute car or something.

"Splashing" a body the old-fashioned way, especially off of a fragile aluminum car is tedious but not rocket science. The story I was told about when the Hurricane car was copied was that it took all of a day to take the molds from the body. But they did it while the CSX car was assembled, and they did it in pieces. So the hard part was then to get it all back together into a unified body mold.

[TButtrick]

Originally Posted by elmariachi

The process of digitizing and scanning in the 3035 body would have been very straight-forward using today's technology. As to why FFR chose to not to reproduce the 3035 is anybody's guess. I could not get any of the body lines to match up between 3035 and the new car. The nose is different, as are the door lines/openings as well as the rear fenders. Maybe they are saving the scan it for a Dick Smith tribute car or something.

"Splashing" a body the old-fashioned way, especially off of a fragile aluminum car is tedious but not rocket science. The story I was told about when the Hurricane car was copied was that it took all of a day to take the molds from the body. But they did it while the CSX car was assembled, and they did it in pieces. So the hard part was then to get it all back together into a unified body mold.

I think FFR "morphed" the digitized version of 3035 rather than splashing it. Most likely an economic choice to keep the existing frame (for the most part) and morphed the body to the existing frame and changing the shape in the process. An improvement but still worlds apart from a "splash" of 3035.

[CobraEd]

It seems to me that splashing a car is very easy although a little time consuming. Why would FF do it the hard way only to end up with a non-accurate car. Seems very odd.

My Classic Roadsters is longer and wider than an original. I wonder how they did that one given that it can't be taken from an original by splashing or digitally. Maybe DV knows.


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[TButtrick]

Originally Posted by CobraEd

It seems to me that splashing a car is very easy although a little time consuming. Why would FF do it the hard way only to end up with a non-accurate car. Seems very odd.

My Classic Roadsters is longer and wider than an original. I wonder how they did that one given that it can't be taken from an original by splashing or digitally. Maybe DV knows.


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I think "the hard way", from FFRs perspective, would have been to splash 3035 or exactingly digitize it and then redesign, retool, remanufacture a new frame to fit to a dimensionally new body. When FFR fit a Kirkham body to their existing frame, it was a whole lot more than they had anticipated. Not even a close fit but it was the data they needed to do what they did with the MKIV.

[PaulProe]

SunDude,
To provide correct information to your statements, FFR personnel working the SEMA show this fall gave me this information:

The rear trunk and fenders came from the scans of Smith’s car(3035). The cockpit is from the Mark III except they rolled the edges. The hood and front end came from the molds they had on the Contemporary car.

It is really a hybrid. Some of the lines came from an original but the Mk IV car as a whole did not

Paul

[Silverback51]

Here is a link to the ATOS 3 system that we use.

http://www.capture3d.com/products-ATOS.html

It's a white light system that provides millions of data points per scan. From that you can develop surfaces that can be downloaded for N/C machining of tools or molds.

I have been a tool engineer for over 30 years and know both methods, splashes and digital for doing this type of work. Taking a splash is much more time consuming and not as accurate as the digital methods.