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09-27-2015, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 1ntCobra
So if the CSX4000/6000 fiberglass continuation cars are based off of CSX3057 which is a completion car with a Kimmins body, what was the Kimmins body based off of?
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Yep, it would appear so. I don't know where Kimmins got his panel bucks, although IIRC he has restored many originals over the years.
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Any info on how Backdraft Racing got their mold?
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No one has offered that info yet. But if anyone can ID where BDR or any other manufacturer took their molds, I'll update my original post.
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09-27-2015, 07:04 AM
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Great thread resurrection. I thought the HiTech cars had 2 versions depending on when it was built (fiberglass vs Aluminum tunnel, etc)....
When D'Antonio was building the earlier ones (mostly all fiberglass cockpit) I am unclear what they used to mold the body. Later, when Tim Gunning was building them, they used 3190 to mold a whole new car. I believe most (possibly all) of those had aluminum floors/tunnel. It is certainly not definite, but my understanding is that MOST of the cars that start out with VINs "HTR" are the earlier ones, and the "HTM" are the later ones. Again, I don't think it's a crystal clear distinction, but it gives you a starting point. Along with sharing the name of the current South African facility making the CSX cars there is a lot of serious confusion when it comes to HiTech Cobras.
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09-29-2015, 02:39 PM
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Superformance
Just on the SPF:
It was CCX 3080 which was brought into SA in the late 80s by Mr Cohen. I don't know how often the car changed hands before I bought it from Richard Ransome.
Jimmy P told me the story. The front fenders were changed if I remember correctly. CCX's came further out and down.
I don't know if the mould(s) were changed later. SPF do look different to me than CCX.
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09-29-2015, 02:52 PM
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So far only a passing comment about NAF's (North American Fiberglass) CSX body origin.
Does anybody know any more?
Cheers
Greg
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09-29-2015, 04:58 PM
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Any Ideas on the DAX car from the UK?
cheers
jon
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09-29-2015, 05:40 PM
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Any Ideas on the DAX car from the UK?
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Not a CSX, but based off an 61 AC ACE 2.6, or so I was told many years ago (I'm thinking mid 90's) by someone who was friendly with John Tojerio in the UK.
Bill S.
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09-29-2015, 06:05 PM
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Trick question: What about Exact Carbon?
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09-29-2015, 08:19 PM
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Trick question: What about Exact Carbon?
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I thought Roger didn't let that info out. (though it's not much of a secret if you do a little searching)
Larry
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09-29-2015, 09:38 PM
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Which mold looks the best... I wonder how they chose the car to splash off of, or if they had to use whatever cobra owner would let them copy it...
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09-29-2015, 09:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fordracing65
Which mold looks the best... I wonder how they chose the car to splash off of, or if they had to use whatever cobra owner would let them copy it...
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I've often wondered...if you had an original Cobra 289/427 or an original GT40, all worth way more than the cost of a really nice house, why would you allow someone to splash it?
Maybe some owners didn't know what was being done....?
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Glen
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09-29-2015, 10:24 PM
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I can say with personal knowledge that HiTech's molding of CSX3190 was a full molding directly from the original car and not a measured or partial copy. It was done with full knowledge and permission of the owner during it's restoration. I don't know about others though.
Larry
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09-29-2015, 10:38 PM
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The Kirkham's owned the one they splashed I believe so that makes since to use their own car, but if they had a choice of all the originals I wonder which CSX has the best lines and most even from side to side...
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09-30-2015, 03:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LMH
I can say with personal knowledge that HiTech's molding of CSX3190 was a full molding directly from the original car and not a measured or partial copy. It was done with full knowledge and permission of the owner during it's restoration. I don't know about others though.
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Thanks for adding that Larry. I'm sure that's the case for most splashes.
Cheers,
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09-30-2015, 05:44 AM
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Any idea as to the splashing of the Kellison---> West Coast Cobra???
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09-30-2015, 10:05 AM
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BTW...
The Kirkham's "splash" of their car was digital, and was "messaged" afterwards to correct the ravages of time and hung-over English panel-beaters.
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09-30-2015, 10:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Igofastr
BTW...
The Kirkham's "splash" of their car was digital, and was "messaged" afterwards to correct the ravages of time and hung-over English panel-beaters.
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Well put, my Friend
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10-01-2015, 03:22 AM
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As far as I know, was the BRA289 from UK a splash from John Atkins 289 (COB 6058). If you read the SAAC registry you will find out, that this 289 (if I remember right!) was always a car with many discussions etc. "air car" and so on. It even went so far that some Cobras, still racing !!, were in the discussion of the the AC Club: real or not real etc. So if the BRA289 was a clone from the Atkins 289, it's a clone of a car built in the late 70th or early 80th maybe. The original splash was from a car that has been raced for many years incl. all accidents and repairs. The car was inclined, bent, wavy, buckled every where with different dimensions and heights etc. at the time the splash was made. And so was the BRA289 body shell.
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