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pjmoore2003 03-10-2011 04:00 PM

A historical thread. The disbelief that Tommy was for real. The ups/downs of cobra supporters. It's been an exciting month of posts.

I hope there is a sequel.

Congrats!

dcdoug 03-10-2011 04:05 PM

I figure it's got to be the Goodyear slicks on page 2 of Roger Kraus's catalog. Click this link, then click on "Cobra Tires", then page 2. Those have got to be what he's talking about as they look like billboards but are slicks.

http://rogerkrausracing.com/pages/pricing.html

RodKnock 03-10-2011 04:07 PM

I'm actually curious about the cam in Blitz's car. Hydraulic or solid roller? Duration? Lift? LSA?

Rottie 03-10-2011 04:14 PM

To make 715hp, I am sure it has a solid roller. The Kieth Craft FE's with hydraulic rollers usually max out around 650 hp.

Silverback51 03-10-2011 04:21 PM

As CW said, congratulations to both gentlemen, and thanks for sharing this great adventure with us.

Glad a great time was had by all, and everyone stayed safe.

RodKnock 03-10-2011 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rottie (Post 1115305)
To make 715hp, I am sure it has a solid roller. The Kieth Craft FE's with hydraulic rollers usually max out around 650 hp.

If I remember correctly, it was a 511ci build, but I can't remember any disclosure on the cam. But I do think you're right.

ZOERA-SC7XX 03-10-2011 05:23 PM

I wonder if ol' Shell hisself got wind if this event. I'm sure he'd get a kick out of this. Forty five years of F1 technology and still Ferrari cannot beat the Cobra.

blitzforce 03-10-2011 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SP01715 (Post 1115289)
Pretty funny read. They are now accusing Blitz of sanbagging even though it's some of the same posters that said the Cobra did not stand a chance. Thanks for the link.;)

So funny how people say that. I mean how retarded are they, the bet was booked, Tommys practice had nothing to do with his runs at all, him being worried would only have helped me, his car had to be bone stock and there was no skill in driving it. Between his 500 a day **** talking texts I would of loved nothing more than to tell him he was ****ed and or bet him more. There is 0 chance either Tommy or myself would ever welch on a bet, and he OFFERED me another bet, if i lost i got a tattoo and if he lost i got his car, 100k to win 200k and i only booked 42 to win 85 and refused the tattoo bet, why would I not of taken all the action I could get if I knew for-sure I was gonna win, not to mention many of my other friends offered to buy action on Tom and I said no.

SP01715 03-10-2011 05:57 PM

I hear you. Laying down a 10 second run in a Cobra is not an easy task.

Mdman352 03-10-2011 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excaliber (Post 1115297)
Thanks for that tip on the traction mr0077. That was no doubt a key factor that would have played more into Dan's hand than Tommy's.

By the way, do we know YET what freakin' tires Blitz is running on the Kirkham???? That has been a mystery since these two threads started.

they are grooved Goodyear slicks. It was mentioned in the thread, way back.

ACademic 03-10-2011 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SP01715 (Post 1115324)
Laying down a 10 second run in a Cobra is not an easy task.

True. But from the description I heard here, there was enough resin laid down on that track to make a wooly mammoth cringe. If I were Blitz, I'd swap out the half shafts knowing that the twisting forces had to have been extreme.

I also wonder with all the practice that the Ferrari owner put in, did he hurt the driveline in any capacity (i.e. clutch slippage)? That car is capable of 10.90s out of the box, and on a prepared track and 75 degrees it was ideal conditions to replicate the "magazine driver" times that we all drool over.

Trust me, I'm glad that the Cobra won. As someone else said here, a different driver in the Cobra and who knows what the results would have been? Both are bad ass cars.

And one other thing. Who cares if the headlights aren't real? Wow.
:eek:

TerrysSPF 03-10-2011 07:06 PM

Great job Dan! Looks like you hooked up pretty good on that preped track!
Where are you guys thinking of doing the road course race? Any ideas yet?

Glad to hear that both you and Tommy kept the shiney sides up. Both of you guys sound like class acts.
Thanks for sharing this with us.

RestoCreations 03-10-2011 08:06 PM

Is there a video link somewhere in this thread?

Please tell me someone had a video camera and filmed it.


Nevermind, found it. Is there more than one though?? Awesome event and good photo work!!!!

elmariachi 03-10-2011 08:46 PM

A race between friends for the ages...very cool. Congrats to both guys for having the balls and money to get it on.

Don 03-10-2011 09:11 PM

Congratulations to both of you........well done !

Keith: did you publish the specs on the engine ?

David Kirkham: The journalist that interviewed you last year for the article in the New York Times Magazine. If I recall correctly, he was really impressed with the ride you gave hiim and the Kirkham, maybe he would write an article for publication in a major magazine or ?

tin-man 03-10-2011 10:22 PM

I say Penelope did you hear the Cobra won?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by computerworks (Post 1115231)
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=312330

All of 2 pages...no juice whatsoever. :cool:

sniff,:rolleyes: I just visited the Ferrari site and those guys are real nice gents n'all, breathe rarefied air and live in a parallel world not unlike ours but decidedly in another world. What was interesting was all the speculation about the Ferrari beating the crap outa the Cobra and then the results became know to all the players, what a hoot. Eat crow guys, eat crow the Ferrari got beat by a grunt that has been around for over fifty years.

Kudos to Blitz for his driving skills, to the Tom Kirkham for building a world class car and to Kiethcraft for developing an awesome engine and finally to ol' Shell, for creating the legend.

Cheers, John, AKA, tin-man, UK

soulman 03-11-2011 12:33 AM

Way too cool.!!
 
Guys,

Just finished reading all this thread, unbelievable ... and how embarrassing !

Otomix -Ray.... you sold your car ??? must be proud !

still waiting on you to come down to Australia and help me polish !!!



Perhaps your Aussie Kirkham can do similar in Australia ?.

- note to all Aussie Ferrari drivers !!!

The best thread to date.

Soul.

FredBMOC 03-11-2011 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RestoCreations (Post 1115354)
Is there a video link somewhere in this thread?

Please tell me someone had a video camera and filmed it.


Nevermind, found it. Is there more than one though?? Awesome event and good photo work!!!!

There's a video posted here:

http://www.twitvid.com/TUR1H

RodKnock 03-11-2011 07:45 AM

All I want to know is who's the person who voted after the race was done? I could be mistaken, but I could have sworn there were 98 votes before the race and 99 votes after the race.

Blitz? Tommy? Was it you? :LOL:

ACademic 03-11-2011 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tin-man (Post 1115376)
Eat crow guys, eat crow the Ferrari got beat by a grunt that has been around for over fifty years.

I find it amusing that some of you find it gratifying that a NEW Cobra replica with a 500+ CI modern internal components engine and a prepped track beat the best Ferrari that Enzo has to offer. :LOL:

No CSX in Carroll's stable, short of a dragon snake, would have won that race. I still think it's cool that a carb'd BB V8 in an original-like body and chassis beat the best, but ease up on the in-your-face, huh? :rolleyes:


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