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View Poll Results: March 8 in Vegas...
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Despite spotting the Cobra .2 on the ET, the Italia wins all 3.
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The Italia loses at least once.
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03-23-2011, 06:57 AM
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Dyno numbers for horse power is a continuing debate around. Folks point out a ton of variables and how the numbers can fluctuate so wildly. I think there is some validity to that.
I'll take Keith at his word, that his dyno is "dialed in". But as far as dyno's numbers in general, I remain suspect.
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03-23-2011, 07:39 AM
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I honestly don't think any of the prominent (paranoid) engine builders here try to deceive anyone by "manipulating" dyno numbers. I don't recall any actual accusations here along those lines either... The problem is, the dyno numbers they provide show how much HP & TQ a particular engine can produce on the stand, under very ideal situations. Unfortunately, as Keith said, that is not real world Cobra numbers. Ultra low Cobra RWHP vs FWHP figures tend to be the norm.
Most OEM vehicles seem to have between 11% and 13% power losses between SAE RWHP and SAE "J" FWHP figures, whereby our Cobras show a 20%+ loss.
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03-23-2011, 08:45 AM
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So when is the road circuit challenge? What are the rules? Double or nothing???
As far as dyno numbers go… great for racers/tuners & bragging rights…but for a weekend enthusiast like me, all I know is when I step on the loud pedal, it brings a smile to my face that won’t go away.
Hey undy – 22 Vipers at the Williamsburg C&C last weekend. We could use some help up here.
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03-24-2011, 09:59 AM
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Hey John, (Tin-man)
You still in the PRC? Im leaving for Shanghai tomorrow am!
Jason
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03-24-2011, 04:38 PM
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Not to take anything away from Blitz, he did a great job of driving, and he won, fair and square. I found it curious how many here have commented how the Cobra really cleaned the Ferrari's clock.
The 2100 lb. Cobra was sporting a "built" all aluminum 511 cu in. dual quad motor with 715hp vs the Ferrari that weighed in at 3384 lb., including the 110 lb. passenger and had a small displacement 274 cu in. motor.
I love American muscle, but considering the Ferrari lost by just about a 1/2 sec., I'd say that Ferrari did a fantastic job.
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03-24-2011, 08:52 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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[quote=COBRA427;1118471] I found it curious how many here have commented how the Cobra really cleaned the Ferrari's clock.
awe shucks Cobra427, the reference to cleaning the Ferrari's clock was in retaliation for the folks on the Ferrari thread having the same opinion about what the Ferrari would do to the Cobra.
Tit for tat. 
Cheers, John, AKA, tin-man
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03-29-2011, 05:49 AM
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Been checking in on this thread for a while and as always the comparrison is not equal,as were the muscle car wars of the 60's and so many of the races we read about then.It is still interesting and fun to read about but by no means really means much about what each car stands for.Win or lose either of the two cars would look great parked in my yard.As many years as I have been racing there will always be a winner and a loser that never changes.It all depends on what you want sitting in you driveway in the end.A Cobra will always be a part of our household!
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03-30-2011, 01:53 AM
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Hey John,
Sorry ive been in meetings for the last couple of days. I was at the Parkyard hotel over by the GE technology center in Shanghai, Today im in Suzhou visiting factories. stayin there tonight at the Renaissance
Jason
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03-24-2011, 08:45 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D-CEL
Hey John, (Tin-man)
You still in the PRC? Im leaving for Shanghai tomorrow am!
Jason
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Yes I am, where will you be staying? John,
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