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09-02-2015, 11:06 AM
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Senior ClubCobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Northern,
Ca
Cobra Make, Engine: LA Exotics
Posts: 1,038
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Judge Walsh further wrote:
"Furthermore, we find no meaningful
distinction between what applicant often refers to as a
continuation, on the one hand, and a replica, on the other
hand. Both applicant’s “continuations” and the third-party
replicas are being sold principally in kit form. It is
evident that both are intended to replicate the original
1960s Cobras, including the Cobra 427 S/C."
and
"In 1992, Shelby began to produce “continuations” or
replicas of the original Cobras, including the Cobra 427
S/C, primarily in kit form. A kit typically includes a chassis and body,
but the purchaser is then required to assemble and complete
the car with a transmission and engine and possibly other
parts. Mr. Shelby identified the replicas of the Cobra 427
S/C with the designation CSX 4000.
Shelby has sold the Cobra replica kits for $50,000 to
$150,000."
and
"It is one thing to recognize the legendary status of
Mr. Shelby and the original Cobras, including the 427 S/C,
and quite another to assert that purchasers and potential
purchasers view Cobra continuations or replicas, sold
primarily as kits, which employ the Cobra 427 S/C Design as
coming from a single source. The fact that Cobra replicas,
sold primarily as kits, which employ the 427 S/C Design,
have been sold by numerous third parties for more than
three decades, including between 2002 and 2009, precludes
us from drawing that conclusion. Accordingly, we find
applicant’s evidence based on media coverage of Mr. Shelby
and all of the Cobras not probative of the issue of
acquired distinctiveness."
All Cobras are kits. If someone were producing a Cobra today, it would have all of the required equipment such as 5 mph bumpers, air bags, and catalytic converters.
The VIN of a Shelby is indistinguishable from a Factory Five or a '34 Ford coupe kit; having been assigned by the state instead of the manufacturer.
But none of that matters. What matters is that your Cobra has a genuine CSX nameplate. If money and/or pride in ownership is what matters, we can all see the recognition that CSX nameplate gets at the auction block. It's a kit. But you can be proud to be one of the few that have a genuine Shelby.
Its been fun once again to kick this around. One day we will meet and I'll get a look at your beautiful Cobra.
Cheers
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09-02-2015, 11:16 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Cobra Make, Engine: Sold - Shelby Cobra CSX6045, 468 ci all aluminum Shelby engine
Posts: 370
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul F
The VIN of a Shelby is indistinguishable from a Factory Five or a '34 Ford coupe kit; having been assigned by the state instead of the manufacturer.
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Wrong. My VIN, recognized and recorded by the Commonwealth of Virginia, is CSX6045, taken directly from the MSO and manufacturer's data plate. No state-issued VIN.
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09-02-2015, 01:33 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Carlsbad,
Ca
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2932 with 438 Lykins Motorsports engine. Previous owner of FFR 5452.
Posts: 2,617
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul F
Judge Walsh further wrote:
"Furthermore, we find no meaningful
distinction between what applicant often refers to as a
continuation, on the one hand, and a replica, on the other
hand. Both applicant’s “continuations” and the third-party
replicas are being sold principally in kit form. It is
evident that both are intended to replicate the original
1960s Cobras, including the Cobra 427 S/C."
and
"In 1992, Shelby began to produce “continuations” or
replicas of the original Cobras, including the Cobra 427
S/C, primarily in kit form. A kit typically includes a chassis and body,
but the purchaser is then required to assemble and complete
the car with a transmission and engine and possibly other
parts. Mr. Shelby identified the replicas of the Cobra 427
S/C with the designation CSX 4000.
Shelby has sold the Cobra replica kits for $50,000 to
$150,000."
and
"It is one thing to recognize the legendary status of
Mr. Shelby and the original Cobras, including the 427 S/C,
and quite another to assert that purchasers and potential
purchasers view Cobra continuations or replicas, sold
primarily as kits, which employ the Cobra 427 S/C Design as
coming from a single source. The fact that Cobra replicas,
sold primarily as kits, which employ the 427 S/C Design,
have been sold by numerous third parties for more than
three decades, including between 2002 and 2009, precludes
us from drawing that conclusion. Accordingly, we find
applicant’s evidence based on media coverage of Mr. Shelby
and all of the Cobras not probative of the issue of
acquired distinctiveness."
All Cobras are kits. If someone were producing a Cobra today, it would have all of the required equipment such as 5 mph bumpers, air bags, and catalytic converters.
The VIN of a Shelby is indistinguishable from a Factory Five or a '34 Ford coupe kit; having been assigned by the state instead of the manufacturer.
But none of that matters. What matters is that your Cobra has a genuine CSX nameplate. If money and/or pride in ownership is what matters, we can all see the recognition that CSX nameplate gets at the auction block. It's a kit. But you can be proud to be one of the few that have a genuine Shelby.
Its been fun once again to kick this around. One day we will meet and I'll get a look at your beautiful Cobra.
Cheers
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Game, set, match!
Or is it?
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Jim
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09-02-2015, 02:36 PM
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Banned
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
N.J
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
Posts: 3,897
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jhv48
Game, set, match!
Or is it?
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Better go back and read carefully.  Never said the continuation Cobra doesn't replicate the original series. Never said that that weren't sold as "kits" to some purchasers. It's irrelevant to the main issue of the car being a genuine Cobra regardless of the form some may have been sold due to today's requirements or that it replicates the original design.
As usual you guys can't seem to grasp or refuse to acknowledge the bottom line which by the way is supported by the federal decision on the trade mark issues. The above dealt with trade dress.
Nice try though 
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Last edited by REAL 1; 09-02-2015 at 02:49 PM..
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