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Old 03-07-2011, 01:26 AM
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Greetings all, this is the first thread I have posted here after much reading and research.

I am trying to decide on the correct kit/engine combination (for me) and certainly would welcome any advice or information. I understand and appreciate the purist version of the AC Cobra but I would personally lean toward a more modern Ford engine, either the 4.6, 5.0 or 5.4L (with supercharger). My delima is finding a kit that will accommodate this physically large engine without intruding into precious foot boxes. Before you say 'use the search button' I have. As I said, any constructive comments would be much appreciated

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Greetings all, this is the first thread I have posted here after much reading and research.

I am trying to decide on the correct kit/engine combination (for me) and certainly would welcome any advice or information. I understand and appreciate the purist version of the AC Cobra but I would personally lean toward a more modern Ford engine, either the 4.6, 5.0 or 5.4L (with supercharger). My delima is finding a kit that will accommodate this physically large engine without intruding into precious foot boxes. Before you say 'use the search button' I have. As I said, any constructive comments would be much appreciated

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FFR is the logical choice, although if you throw enough money at Peter/Bob at ERA, they might do another one like mine


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FFR is the logical choice, although if you throw enough money at Peter/Bob at ERA, they might do another one like mine


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Hi Bill,

I have been trying to communicate with FFR for some time via email, VERY slow to get answers.. I have chatted with Bob from ERA, unfortunately these engines intrude into their foot boxes but he is apparently getting back to me about exactly how much. Can I ask what they did for you?

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I have been trying to communicate with FFR for some time via email, VERY slow to get answers..
give them a call. They suck at email, but are awesome at the phone or in person
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I personally saw a Backdraft TD with a Coyote (5.0) in it. It fit quite well. It did not have the supercharger installed but it looked as though there was plenty of room for it.
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Based on your location I see why you are looking to install a modern Ford powerplant. The Backdraft can be ordered to accommodate all the engines you list. Let me know if I can be of further help.
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Go Nuts,

You might wish to speak with Larry at JBL about the touring roadster design.

See: http://www.jblmotor.com/Touring1.htm
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You might wish to speak with Larry at JBL about the touring roadster design.

See: http://www.jblmotor.com/Touring1.htm
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Based on your location I see why you are looking to install a modern Ford powerplant. The Backdraft can be ordered to accommodate all the engines you list. Let me know if I can be of further help.
Thanks very much, will do

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Butch, I'm sure that the modern engine would fit in most of the replicas on the market today, so just go for the car you like the most. My recommendation would be to check out the Hurricane and ERA replicas because they both have great engine placement, the motors are set in the middle and not back near the firewalls.
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Butch, I'm sure that the modern engine would fit in most of the replicas on the market today, so just go for the car you like the most. My recommendation would be to check out the Hurricane and ERA replicas because they both have great engine placement, the motors are set in the middle and not back near the firewalls.
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Thanks Bill, I will take a look at the Hurricane. ERA do have some issues with the size intruding into the foot boxes. The information I received from Ford Racing was that the 4.6L 4V 1999-2003 ENGINE was 28” wide (from the widest point which is at the cam gears) and 24” long and the new 5.0L engine is 30” wide (from tip to tip of the valve covers) and 24” long. I cant seen to locate the 5.4L dimensions but I cant seem them being any smaller.

FFR have confirmed that the supercharged 4.6 does require a number of modifications to fit their chassis because of the changes Ford made to the accessory drive on that engine.

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Hello Butch,

I have had four Cobra Roadsters (Shell Valley, Unique, SPF & Shelby (CSX4264) One Daytona (FFR) and a GT40(SPF) over the last 27 years. I have sold them all and currently have a naked garage.

I built three of them from scratch and the path I believe the best to follow is SPF, you almost can not afford to duplicate the fit ,finish, paint and quality of the SPF when it comes out of the shipping container. The modern Ford modular engines simply drop in and you specify the rear end ratio, transmission, color, paint, interior, etc. etc. that fits what you want to do with the car.

One man's opinion and I'm sure that there will be some feedback from the community here on Club Cobra. If your goal is the journey as opposed to the destination all of the recommendations are well intentioned but, reflect the opinion of the poster.......as is my input.

My next project will probably be an SPF street roadster with a 427 windsor under the hood backed by a Tremec 600 with 3:27 gears in the rear end.

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Go Nuts - the DRB (Qld) can fit them in, and they look like a cobra sorta (from a distance if you squint a bit)

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Go Nuts - the DRB (Qld) can fit them in, and they look like a cobra sorta (from a distance if you squint a bit)

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So what happens if you squint a wee bit looking at a Cobra?

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