Passenger Side Roll Hoop

[ZOERA-SC7XX]

Originally Posted by digginfool

Apparently you didn't like the 'jackass' comment either. You really shouldn't come on to a board and make your fifth post an insult. I appreciate you editing your post to be a little more civil.

You asked the original question!

[digginfool]

Originally Posted by ZOERA-SC7XX

You asked the original question!

Wow. Is it a full moon tonight? The sole reason for my consideration of a passenger side roll bar was for protection of the instructor at an HPDE event. It is the only way any HPDE provider allows the car to be used without prior experience. It wasn't so I can take people on the ride of their lives out in traffic. I used to ride street bikes and I can say I drive more cautiously in my Cobra than I ever did on my bikes due to the fact that nearly every vehicle on the road feels it's necessary to pull up next to me and stare at the car and/or challenge me to a race. Not that looking at the car is a bad thing I just prefer they keep their eyes on the road at 70 MPH, not on my Cobra. Now, back to the subject of the thread:

The question I ask is a two part question; what do you think about the aesthetics of the second roll hoop and how much does it affect the value of the car? It's really a very simple topic.

[vatdevil]

IMHO the two hoops look better and I would pay MORE for a car with them. I dealt with the same question on my car and decided on a single full bar.
Life is too short to concern over resale. Do what you want.

[YerDugliness]

Originally Posted by digginfool

Wow. Is it a full moon tonight? The sole reason for my consideration of a passenger side roll bar was for protection of the instructor at an HPDE event. It is the only way any HPDE provider allows the car to be used without prior experience.

There's your answer. Go to a different location, take a class of some sort, get a certificate......get that "...prior experience". Then the second roll bar won't be a requirement.

Problem solved......you say you are within driving distance of three great tracks, surely there are other instructional opportunities available elsewhere that will suffice to eliminate the second roll bar requirement in your target location, eh? Many of those other opportunities will even provide the cars for you to drive. Just a thought......

In all seriousness, when dealing with a competitive activity in which the penalty for screwing up is significant (I mean, really, you're not going to be in a ping-pong tournament here), getting multiple lessons from different teachers is a good thing. I use to race whitewater kayaks, and every teacher I had was the source of a different move I used in the races....where the penalty points for failure are pretty severe. Remember, safety first. Having said that, though, I must admit for each of us there are certain safety gear that is not negotiable.....helmet, PFD, that sort of thing in kayak racing. It's up to you to decide what is not negotiable for yourself in regards to this issue; the location of the lessons you have chosen has already made those decisions for themselves.

Cheers from Dugly

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by digginfool

Wow. Is it a full moon tonight?

The question I ask is a two part question; what do you think about the aesthetics of the second roll hoop and how much does it affect the value of the car? It's really a very simple topic.

No - the sun is shining where I live!

Part 1 - I don't mind the look. It isn't a deal breaker for me.
Part 2 - I'd pay the same for a car with 1 or 2 roll bars, But... I'd pay less for one that I new was tracked.

Now there is a conundrum...


Enjoy!
Its only money, and you'll burn more in gas & coffee than what you'll lose in resale.

That's my 2 cents

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by digginfool

The question I ask is a two part question; what do you think about the aesthetics of the second roll hoop and how much does it affect the value of the car? It's really a very simple topic.

A. For me, yes, it hurts the aesthetics. I would likely not consider the purchase of a Cobra with two roll bars.

B. If a buyer is after "originality", then yes, it hurts the value. That's why I would say it depends on the manufacturer. I think the manufacturers that take a few more liberties with the original shape, two roll bars might do fine in terms of resale. You rarely see two roll bars on an ERA (notwithstanding Patrick ), CSX or Kirkham.

I have seen this one Kirkham roller for sale on eBay for a very LONG time and the two roll bars may be one possible explanation its taken a long time to sell.

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

B. If a buyer is after "originality", then yes, it hurts the value. That's why I would say it depends on the manufacturer. I think the manufacturers that take a few more liberties with the original shape, two roll bars might do fine in terms of resale. You rarely see two roll bars on an ERA (notwithstanding Patrick ), CSX or Kirkham.

Rodknock, Fair point...
What about a BDR...?
Cos that's what I think Digginfool is talking about... (pls correct me if I'm wrong)

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Dimis

Rodknock, Fair point...
What about a BDR...?
Cos that's what I think Digginfool is talking about... (pls correct me if I'm wrong)

I have no statistics to back my theory up so I'm purely speculating.

Here's my thought. FFR's, BDR's and to some extent SPF's, skew to a younger Cobra demographic, if there is such a thing. Setting aside cost, for the moment (younger buyers are just starting their careers and can afford less), I think the younger crowd is more "flexible" when it comes to the "originality" of the shape as well as some of the details in the modern interpretations of the Cobra. So, two roll bars may become more acceptable to this Cobra buyer's demographic.

Also, getting back to the cost issue, maybe the less expensive Cobras, tend to be raced more often, since people like me who spent a lot of money on his, don't want to bend them.

I can hear the BS meters going off all around the world.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Also, getting back to the cost issue, maybe the less expensive Cobras, tend to be raced more often, since people like me who spent a lot of money on his, don't want to bend them.

I didn't finish this thought. Cars raced more often tend to have more protection. So two roll bars become more acceptable here.