Minimum Air Cleaner to Hood Clearance?

[lovehamr]

Originally Posted by ERA Chas

So you put a wood block under your carb and tell me the open top is ugly.

Ohhhh, that makes you angry? Wuss.

Originally Posted by ERA Chas

Spacers either add 6HP or cost 6HP (which you can't feel or measure unless you're running strip laps) and need to be dyno coordinated to an intake system. They are not a toy-du-jour for performance improvements.

Really, I take it that 6hp # is from your extensive testing? The guys doing actual testing in say "Engine Masters" competition, or NASCAR, or Trans Am, or any number of actual professionals, might have evidence to counter that sophomoric supposition.

Originally Posted by ERA Chas

This little tinker project was stupid to start with and what I told you was to prevent what you found out.

Denigrating comments like this are what make you such a freaking wanker. What did he find out Chas? Maybe you read some tea leaves or something and came up with something that the OP DIDN'T say.

Originally Posted by ERA Chas

then get the Xtreme top if you want power-if you're a lawn-chair guy

You've been through the stupid "Xtreme" filter lid discussion here before and have been told by people much more experienced and knowledgeable than you just how little (if at all) this POS works. And yet you have the unmitigated gall to spout "if you want power" at the OP who has only 1/16" clearance over the top of his AC? These piles of dung show negligible results when run on cars with wide open scoops and dynos with perfect air and yet you have somehow miraculously surmised that this guy's tiny over filter clearance would somehow produce major power with a pile of dog doo on top?

Originally Posted by ERA Chas

then forget I tried to help...
And I won't make that mistake again.

Well THAT would be nice!

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by lovehamr

ERA Chas ... comments like this are what make you such a freaking wanker.

That was too funny.

[ERA Chas]

Originally Posted by lovehamr

Really, I take it that 6hp # is from your extensive testing? The guys doing actual testing in say "Engine Masters" competition, or NASCAR, or Trans Am, or any number of actual professionals, might have evidence to counter that sophomoric supposition.

I can see now that 'lovehamr' refers to your head.

One of the biggest mistakes posters on forums can make when they want to denigrate someone is to underestimate what they know and what they've done. No armchair internet genius posts from me.

Your quote above describes my previous job description almost precisely. I was marketing coordinator between World Castings and PHR during the years the EM Challenge was held in NY. I wrote and photoed all the coverage and specs for World after interviewing all competitors each year. I learned tech from: Kaase, Ron Shaver, Bob Lathrop, Barry R., Tony Bischoff, Jud Massengil, Jim Dove and Mark McKeown-among others. I witnessed and recorded every World crate engine combo R&D dyno- tested, and put the specs and my photos in our two catalogs and both websites.

Before doing that I was Purchasing mgr. and bought every part in inventory for all our engine combinations (56, at one time). This included carb spacers from Wilson Manifolds, Brzezinski,HVH and Hogan Manifolds. K&N filters too. They were tested relentlessly, 1", 2", inverted, 4 hole and open type and all materials. On engines from 500 to 1187HP. We saw max gains of 18HP on our 13.5 cr drag builds and always went back to the mfgr. with our input. That's a hundredth at the strip. And virtually all came on at 6500 and up. Using intakes from Hogan, Ede and our own. Can you expert jockeys feel that on the street with your Fisher-Price combinations??
We saw which lost power too-and many did. All this was after carefully tailoring jetting, cylinder head, intake and climate conditions. The under 650HP, 91 oct. combos showed gains and losses like I posted above.

So why should Frigo's brainstorm be worth the effort? I offered the open top so he wouldn't hurt his power as much as he obviously tried. But I didn't know it was against his discerning standards of aesthetics. High-chair spacer must look way cool in the supermarket parking lot to the rest of the vehicular pundits. You may not like the way I said it but I DID try to salvage a dumb move on your part Frigo.

Now you two tell me your professional experience that lets you throw snot all over me on this subject.

Done with both of you ass clowns. Frigo-I should have known about you when I saw your sig in crayons and big letters. Both of you feel free to ignore anything I write.

[Jeff Frigo]

Originally Posted by ERA Chas

Now you two tell me your professional experience that lets you throw snot all over me on this subject.

Never claimed to be a professional. I asked a simple question about hood clearance. It was answered by many people above your first post. You are the one that decided to sh1t all over it genius.

[patrickt]

Well I think we should just forget the whole unpleasant incident. Chas, I think you should tell both Jeff and LH that you're sorry and that you promise not to do it again.

[Jeff Frigo]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Well I think we should just forget the whole unpleasant incident. Chas, I think you should tell both Jeff and LH that you're sorry and that you promise not to do it again.

Sorry if I contributed. Im a member of this forum because of the wealth of knowledge and peoples willingness to help. And btw, the crayons are here to stay.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Jeff Frigo

Sorry if I contributed. Im a member of this forum because of the wealth of knowledge and peoples willingness to help. And btw, the crayons are here to stay.

Not your fault. We've had problems with Chas ever since he started refusing his meds. But, what are you going to do? He's a legacy, so we've got to let him in. Most of us just think of him as that crazy relative that you have to keep upstairs in the locked bedroom. Sometimes he gets out, but most of the time we just keep him locked up. Now if he would just go back on his meds everything would go back to normal. And I, for one, happen to like crayons.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Not your fault. We've had problems with Chas ever since he started refusing his meds. But, what are you going to do? He's a legacy, so we've got to let him in. Most of us just think of him as that crazy relative that you have to keep upstairs in the locked bedroom. Sometimes he gets out, but most of the time we just keep him locked up. Now if he would just go back on his meds everything would go back to normal. And I, for one, happen to like crayons.

And how does this sound to Chas? Peacemaker-like?