CSX4000/6000 Vs. Superformance/ERA/Kirkham

[twobjshelbys]

Some fiberglass CSX cars were built by HST International in Mexico, but they went out of business about a year ago. Some builders (Becker, Denbeste) considered the HST cars to be of higher quality, although I don't think a mere mortal could tell the difference from a HiTech car.

HST built a handful or two of carbon fiber cars. Mine is one.

[Slither]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

Some fiberglass CSX cars were built by HST International in Mexico, but they went out of business about a year ago. Some builders (Becker, Denbeste) considered the HST cars to be of higher quality, although I don't think a mere mortal could tell the difference from a HiTech car.

HST built a handful or two of carbon fiber cars. Mine is one.

There are at least 7 carbon fiber bodied CSX cars that I know of.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by Slither

There are at least 7 carbon fiber bodied CSX cars that I know of.

You're right. Somewhere between one and two handfuls, but not on to toes yet Mine was one of the first, and in fact, the first two were two of the CSX4000LA cars.

[Slither]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

You're right. Somewhere between one and two handfuls, but not on to toes yet Mine was one of the first, and in fact, the first two were two of the CSX4000LA cars.

Did HST ever put the very first (yellow w/ carbon fiber stripes) on a chassis and sell it? I remember that body was really, really heavy! I almost bought the second carbon fiber bodied car, but at that time, Shelby couldn't decide what they were going to charge for it. So I passed on it!

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by Slither

Did HST ever put the very first (yellow w/ carbon fiber stripes) on a chassis and sell it? I remember that body was really, really heavy! I almost bought the second carbon fiber bodied car, but at that time, Shelby couldn't decide what they were going to charge for it. So I passed on it!

Actually, I hope not. I don't like exposed carbon fiber. It's a fine material but I never understood why everyone thinks has to be exposed and out in the open like the plaid upholstery on the couch.

And as much as I like Kirkhams, the care and feeding of naked aluminum is as much an OCD task as black paint on my Mustangs. Mine would be painted Guardsman Blue.

My new Ford GT is Heritage. Did anyone ever do a Gulf blue and orange Cobra?

[Slither]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

Actually, I hope not. I don't like exposed carbon fiber. It's a fine material but I never understood why everyone thinks has to be exposed and out in the open like the plaid upholstery on the couch.

And as much as I like Kirkhams, the care and feeding of naked aluminum is as much an OCD task as black paint on my Mustangs. Mine would be painted Guardsman Blue.

My new Ford GT is Heritage. Did anyone ever do a Gulf blue and orange Cobra?

I transported CSX4503 some years ago. It was a black car with exposed carbon fiber stripes and I just transported CSX4507 which is an all black carbon fiber car. Both were very nice cars!

[ERA 626]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

Some fiberglass CSX cars were built by HST International in Mexico, but they went out of business about a year ago. Some builders (Becker, Denbeste) considered the HST cars to be of higher quality, although I don't think a mere mortal could tell the difference from a HiTech car.

HST built a handful or two of carbon fiber cars. Mine is one.

um no... Bill Denbeste is a friend of mine and it is the EXACT oppisite The Hi-tech cars are better quality

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by ERA 626

um no... Bill Denbeste is a friend of mine and it is the EXACT oppisite The Hi-tech cars are better quality

A non newbie newbie mistake.

You had to comment on a thread last posted in

10-06-2011, 06:28 PM

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

A non newbie newbie mistake.

You had to comment on a thread last posted in

10-06-2011, 06:28 PM

Yeah, but it's still entertaining. Clubcobra seems like it has been somewhat mundane, and it's good to rekindle a thread that's a little exciting !

[ERA 626]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

A non newbie newbie mistake.

You had to comment on a thread last posted in

10-06-2011, 06:28 PM

OK I give up, what is newbie about commenting on an old thread? What is newbie is being a TROLL...

[olddog]

Originally Posted by ERA 626

OK I give up, what is newbie about commenting on an old thread? What is newbie is being a TROLL...

Seek first to understand, before starting a war.

I suspect the newbie mistake Bill was talking about was your arguing that they had it all wrong on which was the higher quality replica. Picking a 9 year old thread to start an argument, from an incorrect point of view was just a secondary point.

Now I may have this all wrong, but you might should have made sure before tossing rocks at a fellow member who arguably knows more about the Cobra replica market and originals than than most people in the sport. Not that he needs me to polish his halo or anything.

[ERA 626]

Originally Posted by olddog

Seek first to understand, before starting a war.

I suspect the newbie mistake Bill was talking about was your arguing that they had it all wrong on which was the higher quality replica. Picking a 9 year old thread to start an argument, from an incorrect point of view was just a secondary point.

Now I may have this all wrong, but you might should have made sure before tossing rocks at a fellow member who arguably knows more about the Cobra replica market and originals than than most people in the sport. Not that he needs me to polish his halo or anything.

Old dog, Look man I am not "arguing" with anyone. I dont give a ****e what the date is on a thread. As I said I am friends with Denbeste. He has at least 10-12 of each cobra on this cobra wall. I did extensive research on which car to buy in seeing them my self, talking with Bill Denbeste, and more important Joe the engine builder for shelby engine co. he has personnally built dozens if not more of the vegas cars, the HST mexico cars and the HI-Tech SA cars, I can go into detail of the differences on the three if you like... I was simply stating my educated opinion on the topic. Why do you accuse people of "arguing"? "throwing rocks" perhaps you should put some thought on your comments before "throwing rocks" at me...

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by ERA 626

I don't give a ****e what...

I'm still trying to figure out what word this is.

[olddog]

Originally Posted by ERA 626

Old dog, Look man I am not "arguing" with anyone. I dont give a ****e what the date is on a thread. As I said I am friends with Denbeste. He has at least 10-12 of each cobra on this cobra wall. I did extensive research on which car to buy in seeing them my self, talking with Bill Denbeste, and more important Joe the engine builder for shelby engine co. he has personnally built dozens if not more of the vegas cars, the HST mexico cars and the HI-Tech SA cars, I can go into detail of the differences on the three if you like... I was simply stating my educated opinion on the topic. Why do you accuse people of "arguing"? "throwing rocks" perhaps you should put some thought on your comments before "throwing rocks" at me...

Mike,

You have a point. In retrospect, I did toss a stone your way. I didn't intend it that way. I was a little put off, as I believe you called MrMustang a troll. I find him a very valuable member. For that matter I always had a positive opinion of you too. It wasn't my job or place to intervene. Oh well.

I'm unaware of an unwritten rule forbidding bring up an old thread. It is, however, annoying when someone replies with an answer to a 50 yr old thread (obvious exaggeration) and everyone hopps on trying help someone who died 5 yrs ago. On the other hand, if a thread is relevant to something you need help with that seems fine to me.

Resurrecting an old thread to disagree reminds me of the Country Music song "I'm diggin up bones."

So in closing, I don't want to pile on, antagonize, or otherwise piss anyone off, in these stressful times. Sorry if I did that.

I still stand by the advice to make sure you understand what someone intended to say before getting your panties in a bunch. That's a general statement not aimed at anyone in particular.

Rick