Cobra Front to rear weight balance

[fordracing65]

Have you driven it yet after the change, can you notice a big difference, if so where did you notice it most, turns or straight or both, starting or stopping, etc.

[lovehamr]

Originally Posted by AL427SBF

Big Block guys forever trying to make the case that there is no weight/distribution difference between a FE and a Windsor. Absolutely laughable, you can't argue with physics. Spend some time around the road course guys who WIN and see what they are running lol.

Yup, for all you doubting-Thomas...es, just look at this beak heavy big block as it tries to get around the cones. It's just (what was the word?) "laughable."

1966 Cobra sweeps the autocross - YouTube

[Silverback51]

Originally Posted by lovehamr

Yup, for all you doubting-Thomas...es, just look at this beak heavy big block as it tries to get around the cones. It's just (what was the word?) "laughable."

1966 Cobra sweeps the autocross - YouTube

Good point.

You forgot to add that he was specifically told not to return the next year, even though it's common for the prior year's winner to return.

[lovehamr]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

Good point.

You forgot to add that he was specifically told not to return the next year, even though it's common for the prior year's winner to return.

Yup:

Final 2009 OPTIMA Ultimate Street Car Results:
2009 OPTIMA Ultimate Street Car
1st Place: Bruce Cambern, ’66 Cobra
2nd Place: Ryan Matthews, ’69 Camaro
3rd Place: Mark Stielow, ’69 Camaro

Baer Brakes Speed Stop Challenge
1st Place: Bruce Cambern, ’66 Cobra
2nd Place: Bruce Cambern, ’66 Cobra

Ridetech Street Challenge Autocross
1st Place: Bruce Cambern, ’66 Cobra
2nd Place: Bruce Cambern, ’66 Cobra

BF Goodrich Hot Lap Challenge
1st Place: Bruce Cambern, ’66 Cobra
2nd Place: Ryan Matthews, ’69 Camaro

Speed by Spectre Design/Build Challenge
1st Place: Barry Blomquist, ’62 Corvette
2nd Place: Josh Henning, ’67 Chevelle

Wonder why they didn't want him back........... Probably because the beak heavy POS would have been beaten to easily...................

Oh, AL427SBF, you did notice that it swept all the performance comps wich included a RR right? It did lose in the "Design/Build" challenge though. Maybe if he'd put a sb in it with wings and things he'd have done better in the boy racer catagory.

[AL427SBF]

Originally Posted by lovehamr

Yup:

Final 2009 OPTIMA Ultimate Street Car Results:
2009 OPTIMA Ultimate Street Car
1st Place: Bruce Cambern, ’66 Cobra
2nd Place: Ryan Matthews, ’69 Camaro
3rd Place: Mark Stielow, ’69 Camaro

Baer Brakes Speed Stop Challenge
1st Place: Bruce Cambern, ’66 Cobra
2nd Place: Bruce Cambern, ’66 Cobra

Ridetech Street Challenge Autocross
1st Place: Bruce Cambern, ’66 Cobra
2nd Place: Bruce Cambern, ’66 Cobra

BF Goodrich Hot Lap Challenge
1st Place: Bruce Cambern, ’66 Cobra
2nd Place: Ryan Matthews, ’69 Camaro

Speed by Spectre Design/Build Challenge
1st Place: Barry Blomquist, ’62 Corvette
2nd Place: Josh Henning, ’67 Chevelle

Wonder why they didn't want him back........... Probably because the beak heavy POS would have been beaten to easily...................

Oh, AL427SBF, you did notice that it swept all the performance comps wich included a RR right? It did lose in the "Design/Build" challenge though. Maybe if he'd put a sb in it with wings and things he'd have done better in the boy racer catagory.

So you are saying Bob Bondaurant and the Shelby Racing Team, both don't know what they are talking about but you do? Is that it? LMAO!

Bob Bondaurant - 351 Windsor was a better balanced Cobra for racing
Shelby Spec Racing Cobra - 427 body with a 351 Windsor

Google 427 cobra road course stats for the last decade you moron.
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[avanti-176]

Originally Posted by lovehamr

Yup, for all you doubting-Thomas...es, just look at this beak heavy big block as it tries to get around the cones. It's just (what was the word?) "laughable."

1966 Cobra sweeps the autocross - YouTube

As I recall that Cobra had a TON of suspension work done to it, so much so, that it really did not resemble the original suspension. Might have had a little affect on the outcome..... I could be wrong though.

[AL427SBF]

No, no, no... it's the small block guys constantly trying to justify, and explain away, their poor decision.

Yeah right, take it up with Bob Bondaurant or the Shelby guys. Bob was one of the 1st to state the 351 Windsor was a better balanced Cobra for racing, you don't think he knows what works? When Shelby put their spec racing Cobra out it was a 427 body with a 351 Windsor, like those guys don't know how to make a properly balanced race car?
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[patrickt]

If it's a 427 car, and it doesn't have an FE in it, then it could have a uranium enriched phase engine in there that takes you to the next dimension and it would still be wrong, wrong, wrong. And everybody except guys that put wrong engines in their cars will all be nodding in agreement with that statement.

[Silverback51]

Originally Posted by patrickt

If it's a 427 car, and it doesn't have an FE in it, then it could have a uranium enriched phase engine in there that takes you to the next dimension and it would still be wrong, wrong, wrong. And everybody except guys that put wrong engines in their cars will all be nodding in agreement with that statement.

Unlike Patrickt who feels that his way is the only true way, I believe that whatever you do to make the car yours is the correct way. It's only you that you have to make happy.

SB, BB, or hell, even a Chevy. It's your choice. Do what makes you happy.

Sorry for the off topic rant.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

Unlike Patrickt who feels that his way is the only true way, I believe that whatever you do to make the car yours is the correct way. It's only you that you have to make happy.

The opposing viewpoint, of course, is that there is an overriding societal duty to do what's right when it comes to the engine choice for 427 cars. If you're going to shirk that duty, then the least you can do is step up to the plate and acknowledge that the choice is "only correct for you" and, in fact, is wrong for the rest of the Cobra loving universe.

[Silverback51]

Originally Posted by patrickt

The opposing viewpoint, of course, is that there is an overriding societal duty to do what's right when it comes to the engine choice for 427 cars. If you're going to shirk that duty, then the least you can do is step up to the plate and acknowledge that the choice is "only correct for you" and, in fact, is wrong for the rest of the Cobra loving universe.

There is no god damn duty. If you truly believe that you are even worse off than you come across at times.

And for that I'm sorry for you.

[vector1]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

Unlike Patrickt who feels that his way is the only true way, I believe that whatever you do to make the car yours is the correct way. It's only you that you have to make happy.

SB, BB, or hell, even a Chevy. It's your choice. Do what makes you happy.

Sorry for the off topic rant.

think i'd have to vote for this one.

doesn't matter what you put in your fake cobra.

[ERA Chas]

Bernie, bail now. Here's where all the good information in your thread goes straight to hell...........

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by ERA Chas

Bernie, bail now. Here's where all the good information in your thread goes straight to hell...........

Al threw the first punch.

[mdross1]

The correct police are never going away as are the my way is the only way.The brand wars are as hot today as ever.Good thing non of these narrow focused types affected my decision to build the car I have always wanted.Never been 100% brand loyal other than not buying junk.Used to wonder how could a person be so driven as to say what is right and everybody else is wrong.The old saying is certainly true."It takes all types to make the Big Blue Ball revolve"With that said:can a motorcycle with 8 cylinders still be called a motorcycle?

[Tommy]

My car, which was originally constructed as a dedicated SCCA racer, has its 410 ci Windsor engine set back as far as possible. It weighs in at 48% front, 52% rear with me and a half tank of gas in it. ... In spite of all that, there are plenty of cars faster than me on track day because I'm not the best driver. .... If you're looking to maximize the performance of your car/driver combination, I suggest you focus more on driving schools than what kind of metal surrounds your pistons. I suspect you'll find that any large displacement V8 will provide more power than you can handle at the limits of your car's performance envelope.

[AL427SBF]

yeah, those BB are murder in a parking lot, like autocross = road race lmao.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by AL427SBF

yeah, those BB are murder in a parking lot, like autocross...

You and Silverback need to quit apologizing. We accept you for who you are, and it's ok.

[Silverback51]

Originally Posted by patrickt

You and Silverback need to quit apologizing. We accept you for who you are, and it's ok.

I apologize to those that I have offended when they did not deserve it. I do not however apologize for who I am.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

I do not however apologize for who I am.

Nor should you. Your apology over your engine choice was more than enough for even the most rabid carnivores on this forum. I think we should just forget the whole thing and ignore them all together. How does that sound?