Coyote 5.0L...thoughts?

[SpecOp1]

Dimis...your assumptions are correct...I get a kick out of those that predict this engine ...I have it and it is awesome and as tunes get better the car gets more power....I could have picked any engine..I selected this one....that $6500 thing...not in a real world. As with colors, stripes, and other choices...it is what makes cars such a neat hobby....jus say'n....Bill

[fordracing65]

Originally Posted by SpecOp1

Dimis...your assumptions are correct...I get a kick out of those that predict this engine ...I have it and it is awesome and as tunes get better the car gets more power....I could have picked any engine..I selected this one....that $6500 thing...not in a real world. As with colors, stripes, and other choices...it is what makes cars such a neat hobby....jus say'n....Bill

I had a 5 litre dohc for 5 years in my spf before I sold it, the coyote is so underpowered compared to a windsor or fe its not even funny, the engine is maxed out in natural form, no new tunes can extract any more power, to gain hp naturally the only way to increase is through cubes. The engine is smooth, like a modern car, like I said to each is own

[RACER X #99]

Originally Posted by fordracing65

I had a 5 litre dohc for 5 years in my spf before I sold it, the coyote is so underpowered compared to a windsor or fe its not even funny, the engine is maxed out in natural form, no new tunes can extract any more power, to gain hp naturally the only way to increase is through cubes. The engine is smooth, like a modern car, like I said to each is own

Please explain
The New 5.0 Mustangs run the 1/4 in the 12's stock
The 68 428 Cobra jets ran in the 13's stock
427 Cobras stock ran in the 12's

NO reason why the Coyote 5.0 in a cobra can't run in the 11's
Plus get over 25 MPG

Perhaps your 5.0 was never tuned properly

The biggest advantage the 5.0 has over the other engines are great breathing cylinder heads which has always been the drawback to FE's

I have owned Cobras with FE SO and big cube Windsors so don't tell me about FE's

Just in case you didn't notice the top three finishers in the Rolex 24 at Daytona were all running 5.0 Coyote based engines and they ran more miles that the 427 GT's did back in the sixties.

I would never suggest anybody not run any engine of their choice but to claim the new 5.0's are underpowered simply means you really don't know much about performance engines.

[fordracing65]

Originally Posted by RACER X #99

Please explain
The New 5.0 Mustangs run the 1/4 in the 12's stock
The 68 428 Cobra jets ran in the 13's stock
427 Cobras stock ran in the 12's

NO reason why the Coyote 5.0 in a cobra can't run in the 11's
Plus get over 25 MPG

Perhaps your 5.0 was never tuned properly

The biggest advantage the 5.0 has over the other engines are great breathing cylinder heads which has always been the drawback to FE's

I have owned Cobras with FE SO and big cube Windsors so don't tell me about FE's

Just in case you didn't notice the top three finishers in the Rolex 24 at Daytona were all running 5.0 Coyote based engines and they ran more miles that the 427 GT's did back in the sixties.

I would never suggest anybody not run any engine of their choice but to claim the new 5.0's are underpowered simply means you really don't know much about performance engines.

I had this engine in my spf, it won rolex also, it was the cammer, same platform, to suggest I dont know this motor is laughable, never said it wasnt a good choice, said it was underpowered compared to an fe or windsor, I did this set up 5 years ago, I knew how cool it was then and It is cool now, but underpowered in my opinion, please dont put word into my mouth, thanks.

[RACER X #99]

Originally Posted by fordracing65

I had this engine in my spf, it won rolex also, it was the cammer, same platform, to suggest I dont know this motor is laughable, never said it wasnt a good choice, said it was underpowered compared to an fe or windsor, I did this set up 5 years ago, I knew how cool it was then and It is cool now, but underpowered in my opinion, please dont put word into my mouth, thanks.

Bare with me please, I'm a little confused by your post.

You say the 302 Coyote is underpowered yet the stock 5.0 makes 1.36 HP per CI for 412 HP
yet a stock 427 SO FE only makes 1 HP per CI for 425 HP

So if your going to compare engines side by side and not highly modified than the FE or the equally stock Windsors are way underpowered.

Or is there something wrong with my math.

I'll admit I have never been an FE fan even though I have owned a few.
And I believe the Windsor, especially in NASCAR configuration is a better engine.(Can't argue with 800+HP out of 358 CI)
But your opinion that the Coyote is underpowered just does not make sense.

[fordracing65]

For a street motor the coyote needs to rev to 4500 rpm to make its power, not good on the street, great for track, for example, a race car spends about 85% of its time at 4500 rpm to redline (coyote), a street motor spends about the same time at idle to 4500 (FE), thats where its power is made, its not neccesary thats the coyote is underpowered, its just not the best street engine, thats why first thing everyone does with these engines is to upgrade to a deeper gear, you need it or the engine falls flat untill the rpm kicks in, by the way my FE makes over 600hp and tq, superchargers on the coyote are so popular because it gives you that tq down low where you need it for street driving, track mustang is NA form, again to each is own, ive driven both in a cobra, and in my opinion, no comaprison. Im well aware for $6500 the coyote cant be beat, great power, light package, and smooth, but no comaprison to an fe or windsor in na form.

[SpecOp1]

Yeah, with your open minded opinion I am sure we would have a wonderful conversation. Probably one sided but ,I am sure enlightening. As I said I could have had any engine, cost was not an issue....so tell me more about your 5.0 spf...

[SpecOp1]

You know we hear about your 5 year old spf a lot ...where did you own a new Coyote 5.0....when you get or drive one call us.

[fordracing65]

Originally Posted by SpecOp1

You know we hear about your 5 year old spf a lot ...where did you own a new Coyote 5.0....when you get or drive one call us.

It is a cobra chat site right, and I talked about my car, imagine that, I was proud of it, do you have kids, are you proud of them, do you talk about them, most people do, are you proud of your ride, and when my Kirkham comes ill talk about it also, will it be annoying, maybe, but who cares, deal with it. thats what its for, share tid bits, talk rides, share thoughts, garanteed some of my posts have helped, just like most opinions on here helped me with my new build, Again I pioneered the 5.0 in a spf, just like you did in a backdraft, congrats. (learn about the coyote and cammer and then come talk to me.)

[madmaxx]

Well sad



QUOTE=fordracing65;1175485]It is a cobra chat site right, and I talked about my car, imagine that, I was proud of it, do you have kids, are you proud of them, do you talk about them, most people do, are you proud of your ride, and when my Kirkham comes ill talk about it also, will it be annoying, maybe, but who cares, deal with it. thats what its for, share tid bits, talk rides, share thoughts, garanteed some of my posts have helped, just like most opinions on here helped me with my new build, Again I pioneered the 5.0 in a spf, just like you did in a backdraft, congrats. (learn about the coyote and cammer and then come talk to me.)[/quote]