Replacement for Cobra

[REAL 1]

[QUOTE However, NO OTHER CAR will give you the immediate recognitiuon and admiration that a 427 Cobra does when it's out and about. None.

Bill[/quote]

Wrong. FGT surpasses it in this department.

Rodknock. I like your Porsche suggestions. As to the Mazda Miata R, it's a Mazda. The Shelby is a...well a Shelby. The Boss also is storied name.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Wrong. FGT surpasses it in this department.

Rodknock. I like your Porsche suggestions. As to the Mazda Miata R, it's a Mazda. The Shelby is a...well a Shelby. The Boss also is storied name.

I think we're still talking about $60K cars and obviously the FGT is no where near that price level.

Shelby and Boss are storied names, back in the 1960's. The modern Shelby and Boss just don't have that same "je ne sais quoi."

Personally, I think the 1st generation of Mazda Miata's have reached that iconic status, but that's just me.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I think we're still talking about $60K cars and obviously the FGT is no where near that price level.

Shelby and Boss are storied names, back in the 1960's. The modern Shelby and Boss just don't have that same "je ne sais quoi."

Personally, I think the 1st generation of Mazda Miata's have reached that iconic status, but that's just me.

Rodknock: His statement wasn't qualified at all. As to cars in the $60K range I agree that against those cars the Cobra is the most attention getting.

As to "je ne sais quoi", first ("F" the French), second if the French say it must be so you know it ain't. Third, I don't read or speak French so don't care what they say and Finally, and most importantly I think the modern Shelbys still have a VERY high level of desirabiltiy. I need only point to the 50th anniversary Shelby 289s that were sold out in an hour. That says it all. Of course the classic Shelbys demand the really big dollars but a Shelby is a Shelby and still very desirable (some more than others granted BUT thats with anything).

As to 1st gen Mazada's reaching Iconic status...your right...it is just you.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Rodknock: His statement wasn't qualified at all. As to cars in the $60K range I agree that against those cars the Cobra is the most attention getting.

As to "je ne sais quoi", first ("F" the French), second if the French say it must be so you know it ain't. Third, I don't read or speak French so don't care what they say and Finally, and most importantly I think the modern Shelbys still have a VERY high level of desirabiltiy. I need only point to the 50th anniversary Shelby 289s that were sold out in an hour. That says it all. Of course the classic Shelbys demand the really big dollars but a Shelby is a Shelby and still very desirable (some more than others granted BUT thats with anything).

As to 1st gen Mazada's reaching Iconic status...your right...it is just you.

For me, the OP qualifies the $60K limit in the initial post by saying "I have a budget of 60k."

The modern Shelby Mustangs are used cars with "some" desirability, certainly not "very high" to the general sports car buying public.

As for the 50th anniversary Shelbys, come on, are you serious? I heard 1/2 to 2/3rd's of them were bought by dealers for inventory and they're just starting to deliver their first production models. There are plenty for sale, just call your local Shelby dealer.

The 1st generation of Mazda Miatas are very collectible, and iconic. I could go on forever, but here's just a few.

Hemmings:
1990-97 Mazda Miata | Hemmings Motor News

Road & Track:
Complete comparison test of the Mazda MX-5 Miata and the Pontiac Solstice. View photos, data specs of the Mazda MX-5 Miata and Pontiac Solstice at RoadandTrack.com

Businessweek:
25 Most Iconic Cars of the Past 20 Years: Mazda Miata - BusinessWeek

Kelly Blue Book:
Kelley Blue Book

Car Review:
Mazda MX-5 Miata Essential Buyer’s Guide | Car Reviews and news at CarReview.com

The Car Connection:
2012 Mazda MX-5 Miata Reviews and Ratings - The Car Connection

New York Daily News:
New Mazda Miata's outta sight! Iconic roaderster turns 20, more addictive than ever - New York Daily News

Is it just me?

[REAL 1]

I'll take a Shelby any day over a Mazada.

Yes, your right, contemporary Shelbys are used cars today in the resale market but...classic Shelbys were just used cars too a just couple decades ago.

Time will tell.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

I'll take a Shelby any day over a Mazada.

Yes, your right, contemporary Shelbys are used cars today in the resale market but...classic Shelbys were just used cars too a just couple decades ago.

Time will tell.

Can you please spell it "Mazda" not "Mazada." Twice you spelled it wrong. For someone as bright and detailed as you. Oye vey.

I don't own a Mazda Miata, but I would have no problem driving one. I'm confident in my masculinity.

Doug, yes, I really like the 1993-1995 RX7's too, but I'm more of a convertible fan than a Coupe fan.

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

I'll take a Shelby any day over a Mazada.

Yes, your right, contemporary Shelbys are used cars today in the resale market but...classic Shelbys were just used cars too a just couple decades ago.

Time will tell.

I feel like a thread terrorist for continuing the hijacking of this thread but alas... I will add my humble & forecast...


New Mustang Shelbys will be next to worthless in future.

For there to be value in the future it would mean they need to be even remotely desirable (or preferably ICONIC & preferably rare) today by the 10-25 year old age group. So that when they are 35-60 odd and have worked & amassed their wealth they would be able to afford the "toy of desire" or "dream car" that they yearned for when they were young and couldn't afford.

I'd guess with a plethora of Mustang offerings in Roush or Saleen or Ford direct Boss, GT blah blah blah... and none that are specifically in race exclusive format. I'm guessing other than the oldder crew who remember the exploits of the 60s, no-one would care less about the "Shelby" name as the age demographic is missed (imho).

I have no stats to prove(disprove) this hypothesis, but I'd argue that today more of the younger brigade would opt for a Kirkham ahead of a CSX4xxx series. I know I would & did & I in my low 30s.


REAL1 is correct on one thing - Time will tell.

[AL427SBF]

Originally Posted by Dimis

I feel like a thread terrorist for continuing the hijacking of this thread but alas... I will add my humble & forecast...


New Mustang Shelbys will be next to worthless in future.

For there to be value in the future it would mean they need to be even remotely desirable (or preferably ICONIC & preferably rare) today by the 10-25 year old age group. So that when they are 35-60 odd and have worked & amassed their wealth they would be able to afford the "toy of desire" or "dream car" that they yearned for when they were young and couldn't afford.

I'd guess with a plethora of Mustang offerings in Roush or Saleen or Ford direct Boss, GT blah blah blah... and none that are specifically in race exclusive format. I'm guessing other than the oldder crew who remember the exploits of the 60s, no-one would care less about the "Shelby" name as the age demographic is missed (imho).

I have no stats to prove(disprove) this hypothesis, but I'd argue that today more of the younger brigade would opt for a Kirkham ahead of a CSX4xxx series. I know I would & did & I in my low 30s.


REAL1 is correct on one thing - Time will tell.

wtf? what a totally useless off topic diatribe ...

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by Dimis

I feel like a thread terrorist for continuing the hijacking of this thread but alas... I will add my humble & forecast...


New Mustang Shelbys will be next to worthless in future.

For there to be value in the future it would mean they need to be even remotely desirable (or preferably ICONIC & preferably rare) today by the 10-25 year old age group. So that when they are 35-60 odd and have worked & amassed their wealth they would be able to afford the "toy of desire" or "dream car" that they yearned for when they were young and couldn't afford.

I'd guess with a plethora of Mustang offerings in Roush or Saleen or Ford direct Boss, GT blah blah blah... and none that are specifically in race exclusive format. I'm guessing other than the oldder crew who remember the exploits of the 60s, no-one would care less about the "Shelby" name as the age demographic is missed (imho).

I have no stats to prove(disprove) this hypothesis, but I'd argue that today more of the younger brigade would opt for a Kirkham ahead of a CSX4xxx series. I know I would & did & I in my low 30s.


REAL1 is correct on one thing - Time will tell.

By your logic ( and I don't agree with your premise as I think a large part of the young demographic still loves the Shelby name and vehicles and can't afford the extra freight) there will some great buys coming up in the future on CSX 2000 and 3000s.

Rodknock: sorry I'll try and spell Mazada right from now on.

As to the Vette suggestion, My impression was that the op wanted a car that stood out. A vette stands out as much as all the other oranges in the orange section of the fruit stand. I'd go with the Raptor over the Vette.

[DougD]

RodKnock
Yeah, Miatas are fine cars. But they'll always be a girl's car. If you want a Mazda, how about the last generation RX-7? Looks like a hardtop Cobra, and has balls to boot! I think they're undervalued, and would be a car you could drive a few years and make a profit.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I think we're still talking about $60K cars and obviously the FGT is no where near that price level.

I read the original and saw the 60K limit. My opinion (after having gone through this process and graduated to a Ford GT from a Cobra myself) is that you won't find something that compares favorably to a Cobra for under 60K. Can you do closer to 60K than 150K? Yes. But under 60K is a stretch.

If you're looking for modern conveniences such as A/C and radio and power steering in a small nimble car I would also consider a Lotus Elise. Almost bought one myself, and you can definitely find one for <60K. There are Evoras and Exiges in the 60K range on eBay.