FFR roadster and GTM accident at Carlisle

[tirod]

From what I heard from people there,

- which means this report is second hand and the OP isn't an eyewitness.

As for the need for a safety switch - it would seem somebody would know to be in the vehicle to control it. What can be taken from this is that so many cars do have interlocks that one could all too casually start up a car from a position of no control at all.

That failure to be in control by assuming the vehicle would remain stationary is the fault of that operator. It's dangerous to falsely assume a switch or interlock will prevent a problem, and depending on one is even worse.

Would anyone recommend handling a firearm in the same manner? No. It would be doing the wrong thing at the wrong time, and a negligent discharge doesn't excuse the handler because "they thought the safety was on."

I learned how to start a car safely precisely because there were no switches or interlocks on them. And the firearms I handled were treated as if you could never trust the safety in any way.

So far, so good.

[jojoegen]

Hey CW,evidently you where not there.The marks where as black as can be.The 33 roadster was facing the GTM.The GTM was pushed back from the position it was in when the band was playing.So,all this BS about angles is bunk.The marks clearly show that when the roadster peeled out it was not in a straight line.The floor is smooth concrete .Look at the FFR pics and see that the 33 was facing the GTM.They pushed it out for the band then back after it was done.It was almost at a 90degree angle to each other.Think what you want.I only started this thread for an answer to a question.I didn't know that no-one knew.To answer your question CW,it came from onlookers when they saw me going to my car where the GTM stopped in front of.This thread , there are too many know it alls ,investigators,"I SAW nuttin" people out there.At least I saw the tire marks and that's that.The truth will come out from FFR by the time I'm done.I'm no lier.Parden the spelling.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by jojoegen

Hey CW,evidently you where not there.The marks where as black as can be.The 33 roadster was facing the GTM.The GTM was pushed back from the position it was in when the band was playing.So,all this BS about angles is bunk.The marks clearly show that when the roadster peeled out it was not in a straight line.The floor is smooth concrete .Look at the FFR pics and see that the 33 was facing the GTM.They pushed it out for the band then back after it was done.It was almost at a 90degree angle to each other.Think what you want.I only started this thread for an answer to a question.I didn't know that no-one knew.To answer your question CW,it came from onlookers when they saw me going to my car where the GTM stopped in front of.This thread , there are too many know it alls ,investigators,"I SAW nuttin" people out there.At least I saw the tire marks and that's that.The truth will come out from FFR by the time I'm done.I'm no lier.Parden the spelling.

I'm going to edit as I just spoke with another person who does confirm a minor mishap between a "33" and a GTM. The 33 already having been repaired to as good as new, the GTM will be within a day or so. Scratches and scrapes, but no major damage to either vehicle and both were driven (sorry, not pushed) to their respective transports.


Bill S.

[cwrandolph]

Originally Posted by jojoegen

Hey CW,evidently you where not there.The marks where as black as can be.The 33 roadster was facing the GTM.The GTM was pushed back from the position it was in when the band was playing.So,all this BS about angles is bunk.The marks clearly show that when the roadster peeled out it was not in a straight line.The floor is smooth concrete .Look at the FFR pics and see that the 33 was facing the GTM.They pushed it out for the band then back after it was done.It was almost at a 90degree angle to each other.Think what you want.I only started this thread for an answer to a question.I didn't know that no-one knew.To answer your question CW,it came from onlookers when they saw me going to my car where the GTM stopped in front of.This thread , there are too many know it alls ,investigators,"I SAW nuttin" people out there.At least I saw the tire marks and that's that.The truth will come out from FFR by the time I'm done.I'm no lier.Parden the spelling.

I didn't even come close to calling you a liar. Just asked how this got started. Maybe you need to switch to decaf.