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Do I need an FE side oiler?
Ok, any time I "hear" the 427 side oiler in any of the videos, it just sounds exactly like what I would want my own cobra to sound! Love it! Is the "side oiler" unique in some way or is it just my imagination that it sounds like no other? Do I need an FE side oiler or can I get this from another engine build? :)
I just love that roar and snorting and burble on overrun. example here. 2011 Super Snake vs 427 Cobra - BADDEST SHELBY EVER - YouTube |
Any FE can have the sound you want. Side oilers are bragging rights. So, if cost is a concern, have Brent, Barry or Keith build you a nice FE based on a 428 or 390 block
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You don't need a pretty wife, either.
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Side oiler = bragging rights and $s
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Grubby,
See post above.:) |
Are we talking about an original sideoiler, a Genesis iron sideoiler or an aluminum Pond sideoiler?
The Shelby blocks aren't sideoilers. |
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Listen to Phil's advice above, and then click on the audio link in my signature below.;)
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Where to look?? OH how about the FE TALK forum? Club Cobra - Powered by vBulletin |
Simply put the (Robert) Pond aluminum and Genesis iron blocks are the best and possibly only reproductions of the original sideoiler. They're all expensive assuming you find a nice sound original sideoiler block.
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Notwithstanding chas' reply, the side oiler was designed to combat oil starvation to the main bearings on NASCAR superspeedways back in the day. Not necessary for the vast majority of applications. That being said, good FE blocks are getting harder to find, making the aftermarket blocks more attractive. It just so happens that two out of the three aftermarket blocks are cast and machined as side oilers. Hope this helps
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Phil-Nice to see you make an ultra-rare appearance to weigh-in here and aid the new person.
Glad my reply prompted your participation. |
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Phil, RodKnock, Patrickt, thank you for your input!
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Just a couple of things to help you out:
1. 427 FE came in center oiler (sometimes called top oiler) and side oiler configuration. The Center oiler oils the valve train first and then the mains. The side oiler oils mains first then up to the valve train. The side oilers lasted longer in long distance racing and were configured that way because Ford was having issues with the center oilers losing the bottom end. 2. Some center oilers also had side oiler casting, just were not drilled. Early ones '63 & '64 did not have the side oiler casting. 3. All 427 blocks (center and side) were solid lifter blocks until sometime in '67 or '68 when the hydraulic lifter block came out. They all sound the same..and unless someone gets up under your car to look at the driver side of the block, one one will know which one you have. Of course the above relates to the originals...not so familiar with the specifics of all the aluminum aftermarket blocks. In fact...all FE's sound the same...a 390 will sound the same as a 427 with the same cam, etc. If you are only looking for the sound...get whatever one you can find, unless you are planning to go racing for 500 miles at a time...if so, you should probably try to get a side oiler. I'm am not expert but hope this helps |
You need an FE about as much as you need a cobra ;)
That said it be the only engine I'd consider for a Kirkham or ERA, but to each his own. |
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