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07-26-2012, 08:31 AM
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Luck wished!
Appreciate you coming on Bill. Your legacy is the thread which will be a great guide for future Cammer owners/builders.
I know the guy that started this thread has one in his future... 
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07-26-2012, 10:35 AM
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If I were in the market for another Cobra, I'd buy this car.
OK, I give up, I'll take an original cast iron Cammer too.
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07-26-2012, 11:01 AM
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If you had to pick only one-wheels or cams....which would it be??
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07-26-2012, 11:06 AM
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Wheels!
Mags came on a Cobra. SOHCs didn't.
Those engines are amazing, though.
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07-26-2012, 11:36 AM
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Wheels!
Mags came on a Cobra. SOHCs didn't.
Those engines are amazing, though.
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Of course, this is an answer that would come from someone who's building a 511ci FE with twin Paxton's.
For someone with a pedestrian 482ci FE with just a lowly single carb and turkey pan, I'd take the Cammer of course. Engine before wheels.
I'd like to know when this car hits the auction block, please!
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07-26-2012, 02:46 PM
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I'd like to know when this car hits the auction block, please!
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Oh-oh...Mrs Rodknock will have to sew the wallet pockets closed on all the trousers. 
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07-26-2012, 02:10 PM
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What is it like driving with one of these engines compared to a 470 or 480 aluminum motor?
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07-26-2012, 02:43 PM
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What is it like driving with one of these engines compared to a 470 or 480 aluminum motor?
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The power doesn't go away above 6500.
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07-26-2012, 04:14 PM
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The power doesn't go away above 6500.
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Good one.
What I think most people don't realize is the staggering amount of torque these engines produce in comparison to the wedge motor. Drive off any corner (15 mph) from 1000 rpm and not a hitch. I only ran to 3000 rpm on a chassis dyno to troubleshoot a distributor problem, but it already was making 490 ft. lbs., off-idle.
That's the first thing the old-timers say - torque.
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07-26-2012, 07:56 PM
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Bill,
Your point is well taken as when I got the results of my cammer on the dyno I saw that the torque curve was pretty flat at over 500lbs at very low rpm and it moved up moderately and stayed there at over 7000 rpm. It is a world apart when compared to my wedge. Jim Barillaro, the person who built it made the same remark that you did.
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07-26-2012, 08:28 PM
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It's a little strange when you think about it; stroke is the same for both wedge and hemi. The Cammer has greatly increased breathing (although I never saw flow figures on those or Coon's heads) than the wedge. Conventional wisdom says that's a HP booster. So what accounts for the greater torque spread so low-down on the Cammer?
Given the stroke is the same, I can only guess the cam profiles on the Cammer promote torque earlier. Possibly the VE of the Cammer is superior at the 2500 RPM level where the wedge usually needs 4000+ ??
Keith, Brent, Barry-you guys have built and dynoed these. Care to enlighten? 
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07-26-2012, 11:25 PM
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Bill,
Read through your build log ... wow!
Fantastic attention to detail, stunning motor and very nice build. As the guys have said, the new owner will get an amazing Cobra, hope it goes to a good home.
Best of luck with your future endeavors, thanks for sharing!
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08-16-2012, 12:26 PM
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How did it do at they auction?
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08-16-2012, 12:31 PM
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Happens Saturday night.
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08-16-2012, 01:10 PM
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Prime time. Bestest Bill.
But I hate you. 
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08-16-2012, 01:45 PM
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I've seen and heard thing freak of nature run. When it does it is time to get the women and children in a safe building, that thing is a T Rex among monsters!!!!!!!!!!
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08-16-2012, 02:04 PM
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Good luck with the sale buddy!
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08-16-2012, 02:15 PM
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08-16-2012, 03:29 PM
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Hi Pat buddy, good to hear from you.
Thanks Ron, you saved me the trouble.
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08-16-2012, 04:46 PM
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Good luck with the sale, Bill!
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