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09-28-2012, 08:53 AM
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That is Carroll Hall Shelby v. Stephen Gerard Becker as individuals NOT companies as you so stated
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09-28-2012, 10:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stephen_becker
That is Carroll Hall Shelby v. Stephen Gerard Becker as individuals NOT companies as you so stated
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sigh....
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09-28-2012, 09:27 AM
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Stephen,
As a non-interested party, it looks to me like you are splitting hairs.
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09-28-2012, 09:54 AM
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I have no interest in this legal matter, but just want to put a shout out and again thank Mr Becker. He helped my client and I get his CSX 4000 titled without wanting any thing in return, we did not even buy the car from him, I am very grateful for the time he took out of his day to help us.
With that being said I have also received great service from Tony at Shelby.
I hope both parties can work this out and keep up the great customer service that I have recived in the past.
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09-29-2012, 11:54 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby American CSX 8000 Slab Side series, 289 High Pro , Eight Stack EFI system ,TKO500
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Additional information and follow up.
Shelby Sued - Autoweek |
09-29-2012, 12:25 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Originally Posted by MRGEORGE077
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Since you seem to be "spreading the word" on the web, I'm curious what your attachment to this is? 
Bill S.
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09-29-2012, 06:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmustang
Since you seem to be "spreading the word" on the web, I'm curious what your attachment to this is?
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I bought a car CSX 8050 from Becker and dealt with both him and Shelby American, not taking sides here, I have my car, as it may be, but for someone that is considering making a buy of 100,000 plus may have an interest in current events, ask some of the folks that ordered a 50th Anniversary car in Jan of what? 2011. There is nothing wrong with being informed, I hope you would agree. Best, George
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09-29-2012, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MRGEORGE077
I bought a car CSX 8050 from Becker and dealt with both him and Shelby American, not taking sides here, I have my car, as it may be, but for someone that is considering making a buy of 100,000 plus may have an interest in current events, ask some of the folks that ordered a 50th Anniversary car in Jan of what? 2011. There is nothing wrong with being informed, I hope you would agree. Best, George
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Indeed, being well informed is one thing, posting the same cut and paste all over the web is another. Wouldn't you agree. 
Bill S
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09-29-2012, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmustang
Indeed, being well informed is one thing, posting the same cut and paste all over the web is another. Wouldn't you agree.
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09-30-2012, 04:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmustang
Indeed, being well informed is one thing, posting the same cut and paste all over the web is another. Wouldn't you agree.
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For you information I also posted the following all over the web .
At the time of my original post, the only information available was a public press release put out by Becker. Subsequently, Shelby American has posted their position ,not on this site, but in other public forums, which was the proper and correct thing for them to do.I also believe they presented their position very well. Since that time there has also been additional information provided the public which is as follows:
Shelby Sued - Autoweek
Becker Automotive Sues Shelby Automobiles | National Speed Sport News
And for the lawyers out there:
http://www.autonews.com/assets/PDF/CA83053928.PDF
You are correct that before an informed decision can be made not only do you have to have all of the facts and all the pertinent information but in this case we will all have to wait for the ultimate decision of the courts. Best, George
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09-29-2012, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Al G
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Al, might as well post my follow up link as well
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09-30-2012, 02:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmustang
Al, might as well post my follow up link as well |
Bill,
I'm sorry, what follow up link? I wasn't trying to leave anything out but don't know which link you mean.
Al
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09-30-2012, 04:57 PM
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Bill,
I'm sorry, what follow up link? I wasn't trying to leave anything out but don't know which link you mean.
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This one that shows another lawsuit before this one
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So then THIS CASE (CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 2:05-cv-03353-DDP-VBK) was not you?
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09-29-2012, 06:40 PM
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Why would anyone put up with all of Shelbys b.s. over the years when they can get an aluminum car straight from Shelby source without drama and with the best customer service available anywhere? Seriously/the paint??
I think Kirkhams should offer paint then and own the market. Since I shopped for a car in the late 90s it was clearly a risk to order from a certain high end replicas manufacturer.
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09-30-2012, 11:28 PM
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Tip of the hat to you for rethinking that post, Jorge.
Let's keep it cool, folks. 
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10-01-2012, 06:45 PM
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What do you think of your car? I like the 7000s better. Just like the hips. But a friend has an original CSX2000 slab side with a 260 that really rocks.
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10-01-2012, 07:33 PM
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I checked and CSX 6163 is sold. It is solid red.
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10-01-2012, 08:58 PM
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It's a little late in the night for me to throw in my story (it's long and drawn out) but for what it's worth, I took delivery of my CSX from Becker in November 2011 and I have a mixed opinion about the transaction. Let's just say Becker has ample room for improvement, especially in the area of taking care of the customer after the sale.
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10-02-2012, 09:45 AM
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I guess I'll chime in that I had the opposite experience with Stephen Becker.
I took delivery in July 2009 and had a great pre- and post-sales experience. Stephen's installers were available and responsive on the few questions I had a few months after taking delivery of the car and Stephen also helped me get a few warranty issues sorted out with SAI. I've heard from others in my local club that SAI isn't always particularly responsive to questions, let along warranty replacement items. 
I do know that Stephen and Carroll did buy/sell each other some 60's mustangs so there could have been other reasons for legal exchanges between the two that have nothing to do with Shelby dealership matters.
Anyway, my $.02.
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