What does a new SPF car cost?

[frankym]

Ok, this is just a curiosity piece because I look from time to time on cobra country and ebay and CC of course. And yes, occasionally I do buy. I've owned 4 Shelby replicas since 2000, a shell valley, 2 SPF cars and 1 contemporary. I came across a 4 year old SPF on cobra country with 12,000 miles at $72,000 this week. The engine was a 427 small block rousch. My question is this, how much is a roller selling for?? I am thinking that it's around $40k brand spanking new. A Rousch 427 and TKO 600, installed, figure $20k? so call it a $60k car that is completely replicable from any SPF dealer. How is it an expectation to drive the car for 4 years, and sell it for $12k more than the cost of a new car??

Perhaps I'm totally mistaken in my estimates, could a new roller SPF car go for $60k? Does a fully done SPF car now sell for $80k? Curious if any fellow CC members can enlighten me.

[itstock]

With the couple small options that I wanted when I was shopping, the roller came in at over $60k. I'm guessing I could have got the price down about $5k from that, so $56k....roughly.

The drivetrain with a roush 427r would have been over $20k.

Add a couple more options, dealer/install, delivery, I would have been well Over $80k. It was about $15k more for a similar superformance compared to the backdraft after all was said and done.

So depending on options, yes, a new superformance roller can easily hit $60k and it can easily be over $80k with the drivetrain.

[Cashburn]

Yes, it's a great mystery!!!

Mr. Muck should be able to tell us here what a new roller would cost?

At Carlisle the only SPF roller there was stickering over $60k as it sat. I believe the roller is now at $49,900 but again I am not speaking with any authority here as Time Machines can.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Cashburn

Yes, it's a great mystery!!!

Mr. Muck should be able to tell us here what a new roller would cost?

At Carlisle the only SPF roller there was stickering over $60k as it sat. I believe the roller is now at $49,900 but again I am not speaking with any authority here as Time Machines can.

I wouldn't call this extensive research, but Hillbank has a basic MKIII roller starting at $50,000 and then "bell & whistles/whoop-dee-doo" version for $66,000.

New Superformance at Hillbank Motors Serving Irvine, CA

[blown871]

Good thread. I too have been trying to figure out some of these figures.......and variances. (dont get me wrong... great product... but .........pricing.. here and there..)

[Blas]

Numbers from a Window Sticker +3000 Chassis - Standard Issue
No idea of the date or location of the chassis.
Assumed to be current.

Roller is $49,900.00
Twin Stripes $835.00
Tonneau $675.00
Soft Top & Side Curtains $1395.00
Polished SS Quickjacks $500.00
Glove Box $475.00
Ceramic Coated Headers & Sideppes $545.00 and $545.00
Dealer Prep $1000.00
18" Wheels $2875.00
18" Wheels $2050.00
SS Surge Tank $440.00

[fordracing65]

That seems extremely high for a Superformance, I would spend the little extra and get a Kirkham or CSX, ERA... I had an SPF which came no where near that price...

[twobjshelbys]

My experience when I was looking was that if you took a Superformance or a Shelby roller and outfitted them with all of the same things, they were within $5K of each other. Oh, you want two screws holding on the hood instead of 1? Extra.

Kirkham aluminum cars are special and in a league of their own so don't try to compare glass to alloy. Alloy to ally the same "very similar" applies.

The difference might be 10K now but last I heard Kirkham had a big backlog and a price increase on the horizon.

P.S. You can price a roller at any of their web sites...

[Got the Bug]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

My experience when I was looking was that if you took a Superformance or a Shelby roller and outfitted them with all of the same things, they were within $5K of each other. Oh, you want two screws holding on the hood instead of 1? Extra.

Kirkham aluminum cars are special and in a league of their own so don't try to compare glass to alloy. Alloy to ally the same "very similar" applies.

The difference might be 10K now but last I heard Kirkham had a big backlog and a price increase on the horizon.

P.S. You can price a roller at any of their web sites...

A CSX roller sold on eBay in March for $69,995, so it looks there's probably still a healthy premium for a continuation car over the the Superformance.

Shelby 2 Door in Shelby | eBay Motors

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by Got the Bug

A CSX roller sold on eBay in March for $69,995, so it looks there's probably still a healthy premium for a continuation car over the the Superformance.

Shelby 2 Door in Shelby | eBay Motors

Doug,

Listed, but not sold, Mr B lists a ton of his rollers on Ebay, several years worth I might add, I have yet to see any legitimately sold by him there.


Bill S.

[Got the Bug]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Doug,

Listed, but not sold, Mr B lists a ton of his rollers on Ebay, several years worth I might add, I have yet to see any legitimately sold by him there.


Bill S.

Bill,

The eBay ad indicates that the car "sold for" $69,995. Where do you see that it was listed but not sold?

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by Got the Bug

Bill,

The eBay ad indicates that the car "sold for" $69,995. Where do you see that it was listed but not sold?

Simple, no bids, closed without anyone bidding/buying it

[blown871]

....Does this 'roller pricing' change much when the new model year rolls onto the floors? Is this just like with major auto manufacturers and you can pick up a NEW last year model for less?

[Cashburn]

Originally Posted by blown871

....Does this 'roller pricing' change much when the new model year rolls onto the floors? Is this just like with major auto manufacturers and you can pick up a NEW last year model for less?

No, does not apply.

[Mark IV]

Yes,

Current list for a Mk III roller is $49,000. Add your choice of options. I can supply price sheets for anyone who is interested.

Costs and materials as well as insurance, shipping, etc. have bumped the price up. We would LOVE to be lower but reality sadly dictates otherwise.

And a composite CSX is WAY more than 5K different from an SPF.

Also keep in mind some of the standard equipment SPF comes with such as heater/defroster/fresh air ducts that are optional on some other chassis' as well as the exhaust and headers etc. Are we the cheapest? No. Is there value for the price? Well only the buyer can decide but so far thousands of people have chosen Superformance.

[madmaxx]

You have just found the beauty and magic of Superformances!!!!!! The car for all practical purposes never changes, a 10 year old one looks identicle to a new one. Its not like one has anit-lock brakes, navigation etc. Same for Backdraft. Buy a Superformance and keep for 5 years and you will sell for a profit. Dont aske me how I know, LOL. The car does not change but the price increases every 12-18 months, before long a new one is 15-20K more than what you paid for one new.


I have made money on very new cobra I bought and driven it for years. This includes backdraft and superformance. Other builds do not enjoy this same return on investmnt because there are to many variables in the build. Superformance is like Rolex it is perceived to be the "best" by the first time buyers (in my opinion it was the best i ever had but cost more than BDR which is the best at their price point).

Everyone wants a 427 be it big or small block, everyone loves Roush, no comment, so if you build to sell one day build what sells now and you will be a happy seller.

Guess what, there is no law saying you cant MAKE money on a car you sell. The best selling combination right now and for 2-3 years has been a superformance with a roush 427. .

[fordracing65]

Originally Posted by madmaxx

You have just found the beauty and magic of Superformances!!!!!! The car for all practical purposes never changes, a 10 year old one looks identicle to a new one. Its not like one has anit-lock brakes, navigation etc. Same for Backdraft. Buy a Superformance and keep for 5 years and you will sell for a profit. Dont aske me how I know, LOL. The car does not change but the price increases every 12-18 months, before long a new one is 15-20K more than what you paid for one new.


I have made money on very new cobra I bought and driven it for years. This includes backdraft and superformance. Other builds do not enjoy this same return on investmnt because there are to many variables in the build. Superformance is like Rolex it is perceived to be the "best" by the first time buyers (in my opinion it was the best i ever had but cost more than BDR which is the best at their price point).

Everyone wants a 427 be it big or small block, everyone loves Roush, no comment, so if you build to sell one day build what sells now and you will be a happy seller.

Guess what, there is no law saying you cant MAKE money on a car you sell. The best selling combination right now and for 2-3 years has been a superformance with a roush 427. .

If your paying $60,000 for a roller and putting $20,000 in engine, trans, etc your at $80,000, not in your wildest dreams are you selling that SPF for a profit, unless the buyer is on drugs...

[madmaxx]

Never in my mind would I pay 80k for a spf. If I touch it being a rolex, a cobra, a boat I make money. Everybody says I am lucky, wow I get lucky alot. I low ball the sheet out of everyone and have the four letter word, cash. Don't hate the player hate the game. I have never forced anyone to take my money. You either make good decisions or bad decisions all the time, not half good decisions and half bad decision I make good ones.

The first advice i give to my new engineers is do the opposite of everyone else 99% of the time and you will be right 100% of the time.



QUOTE=fordracing65;1246623]If your paying $60,000 for a roller and putting $20,000 in engine, trans, etc your at $80,000, not in your wildest dreams are you selling that SPF for a profit, unless the buyer is on drugs...[/quote]

[fordracing65]

Originally Posted by madmaxx

Never in my mind would I pay 80k for a spf. If I touch it being a rolex, a cobra, a boat I make money. Everybody says I am lucky, wow I get lucky alot. I low ball the sheet out of everyone and have the four letter word, cash. Don't hate the player hate the game. I have never forced anyone to take my money. You either make good decisions or bad decisions all the time, not half good decisions and half bad decision I make good ones.

The first advice i give to my new engineers is do the opposite of everyone else 99% of the time and you will be right 100% of the time.



QUOTE=fordracing65;1246623]If your paying $60,000 for a roller and putting $20,000 in engine, trans, etc your at $80,000, not in your wildest dreams are you selling that SPF for a profit, unless the buyer is on drugs...

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In that case you should buy every SPF for sale, new or used, sit on them and make your profit later, plus if you have all the inventory new and used, you will set the market price...lol

[patrickt]

Personally, I don't know why anybody spends a dime on these stupid cars.