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Old 06-23-2013, 10:47 AM
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Hector, this thread is for aluminum cars only, because a true replica must be made of aluminum.

Hector, first, there are owners of 1960's era Cobras on this thread and I get the feeling they're not fond of any replicas, including continuation Shelby Cobras. Second, this forum is for ALL Cobras, not just Shelby's. Please don't try to limit my or others free speech just because we don't own a Shelby Cobra. This is a public forum and we can speak as long as we abide by the rules of the forum.

Lastly, this thread is like all the threads before it on the subject. This thread should have been closed a long time ago. Did you read the OP's original question? How does it feel to be asked whether your CSX2000 or CSX3000 is real or an original? DUH!
RodKnock! I like that you brought up the aluminum issue from our last exchange... I thought that was good
On the freedom of speech thing...CHILL!! It was never my intension to address that right EVER! What I meant is that here we are trying to explain our position on original v. real to what SEEMED to me non-Shelby Cobra owners (ERA, KM, etc.) and interestingly enough, not to owners of original cars. Again, I know there are owners of original cars in CC, but to my best estimate, none have written their view on this thread. Therefore, I suggested that perhaps the conversation, or debate should be entertained by the two subjects: CSX2000/3000 owners of original cars (and COC, COB, etc), and the owners of modern 4000/6000/1000/7000/9000 real cars. No intension to leave all you others out
You're so correct about original owners... I would be upset, too. That's why I would never consider buying an original CSX car (which is a moot point, because I do not have that kind of $$). Nowadays, if you shell out a cool mil to buy a unique car, please do yourself a favor and stay away from the most imitated car in automotive history If you want exclusivity, hit the ferrari, bugatti, jag, or porsche market But I guess what I was referring to is that even thouhg they should have the biggest chip on their shoulders, they do not necessarily behave like that on public forums.
I may be wrong, but it seems to me that owners of original cars may rightfully be upset about Mr. Shelby's financial maneuvers such as Continuation cars with CSX serial numbers, etc., BUT because THEY know they own one of the 900 or so original cars, that exclusivity is enough to allow them let the Continuation owners BE.
I would never expect a NON-ORIGINAL car to grace the lawn at Pebble Beach or Lake Como. I am also completely kosher with separating original from continuation cars are any venue. The owners of original cars deserve that. Nevertheless, those circumstances only deal with one fact: my car is not original. Those circumstances do not alter another fact: a CSX Continuation car is a real Shelby Cobra.
Oh, and I forget who mentioned this, but I want to go on record here at CC:
Although I would not mind making a profit in ANY transaction I involve myself, I did not buy a CSX continuation car as an investment. That's ridiculous Read my comments again! I would NEVER buy a Cobra (original or not) as an investment. There are many better cars for that!!! A CSX car gave ME the satisfaction of buying a Shelby product, certifiable as such, and nothing else.

I really enjoyed this debate, to be honest. I think it stimulates creativity and makes me laugh at times
To close this message, I would like to thank Mr. REAL 1 for commenting on my car.
Cheers!!
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Old 06-23-2013, 11:36 AM
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Again, I know there are owners of original cars in CC, but to my best estimate, none have written their view on this thread.
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Tuto, there may be others, but "A Snake", "Cobra #3170" and "Nedsel" are all owners of original 1960's era Shelby Cobras and have commented on this thread.

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That's correct. My car is not "licensed by SAI". It is built under the license of "Carroll Shelby Licensing Inc."
Maybe others can see a difference here in this statement, but I sure don't.
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Tuto, there may be others, but "A Snake", "Cobra #3170" and "Nedsel" are all owners of original 1960's era Shelby Cobras and have commented on this thread.



Maybe others can see a difference here in this statement, but I sure don't.
Actually, one of this group no longer owns any Shelby Cobras. But he does have a genuine, original AC Cobra, and as this thread evolves, he is increasingly happy about that fact.
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Old 06-23-2013, 12:36 PM
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Actually, one of this group no longer owns any Shelby Cobras. But he does have a genuine, original AC Cobra, and as this thread evolves, he is increasingly happy about that fact.
I like your thinking, and it's a fun car to drive!

When I'm asked what kind of car is that, 99% of the time, I answer with it's an AC Cobra I just haven't found the word Shelby or the CS logo anywhere on the car?
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Old 06-23-2013, 12:42 PM
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When I'm asked what kind of car is that, 99% of the time, I answer with it's an AC Cobra I just haven't found the word Shelby or the CS logo anywhere on the car?
The newer replicas from Shelby have a plate on the dash, to correct that glaring omission.

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Old 06-23-2013, 04:04 PM
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The newer replicas from Shelby have a plate on the dash, to correct that glaring omission.

Please search for my photos of CSX 2052 (Otto werlins 260). And Carroll's own 289 car. Both had badges on the dash. Carroll's had an automatic too
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Old 06-23-2013, 04:41 PM
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Please search for my photos of CSX 2052 (Otto werlins 260). And Carroll's own 289 car. Both had badges on the dash. Carroll's had an automatic too
Why? I have some pictures, too.

Otto's plaque is aftermarket... same with CSX2589
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Old 06-23-2013, 12:27 PM
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[quote=RodKnock;1249915]Tuto, there may be others, but "A Snake", "Cobra #3170" and "Nedsel" are all owners of original 1960's era Shelby Cobras and have commented on this thread.

Duly noted, Mr. RodKnock! That's why I wrote to the best of my knowledge. It's hard to offers one's opinion when you don't know anybody behind the screen. It gives me pleasure and it is really cool to know that owners of original cars are here in this thread...whoop, whoop

I'm boarding my plane now. Can't wait to see the development of this thread later on tonight !

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