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07-07-2013, 03:56 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
N.J
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Whether it confused me or not is not the issue. If you feel that confident in your reading of your policy then don't confirm it in writing then. Up to you.
I would confirm coverage in writhing and did. That's my advice. By all means feel free to reject my advice.
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07-07-2013, 04:03 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,025
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Well, alright. I won't belabor the point, but it absolutely astounds me that you don't feel confident in your ability to interpret a simple auto policy. 
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07-08-2013, 06:09 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Allen,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Werk77 289FIA
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Even a law professional (6 year law school) is not sure about that subject. My understanding is, if you come to court you have to have "clean hands" if you knew the vehicle was unsafe and illegally operated on the road = you have lost the case.
It is your duty as owner/operator you do everything in you power to avoid harm to others while participating in traffic. That is the law and it is the same law in every state because it's federal.
Only obeying the law, protect you from a lawsuit disaster. Not a simple letter from your insurance which underlines you broke willingly and deliberately the law and can be used as evidence against you.
The BB look good - but they are not safe for road use. Good Year stated that clearly on their website.
PS: I really would like to see these particular letters, without pics ain't happened - that's the common saying around here, right?
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07-08-2013, 06:56 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,025
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Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Pete
Even a law professional (6 year law school) is not sure about that subject. My understanding is, if you come to court you have to have "clean hands" if you knew the vehicle was unsafe and illegally operated on the road = you have lost the case.
It is your duty as owner/operator you do everything in you power to avoid harm to others while participating in traffic. That is the law and it is the same law in every state because it's federal.
Only obeying the law, protect you from a lawsuit disaster. Not a simple letter from your insurance which underlines you broke willingly and deliberately the law and can be used as evidence against you.
The BB look good - but they are not safe for road use. Good Year stated that clearly on their website.
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Gee Pete, do you think there's any chance in the world that you might be wrong on all of that? 
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07-08-2013, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Gee Pete, do you think there's any chance in the world that you might be wrong on all of that? 
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No, he is probably correct. A friend just had his insurance company pay out $100k in medical and other BS stuff to a guy who was driving with no license, no insurance, and fake plates. He ran a red light and my friend hit him.
Comment from the idiotic judge "your insurance will cover him, so don't worry about it".
In this day and age, ignorance is bliss.
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07-08-2013, 08:38 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joyridin'
No, he is probably correct. A friend just had his insurance company pay out $100k in medical and other BS stuff to a guy who was driving with no license, no insurance, and fake plates. He ran a red light and my friend hit him.
Comment from the idiotic judge "your insurance will cover him, so don't worry about it".
In this day and age, ignorance is bliss.
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A perfect example of a judicial inclination to extend coverage where it probably doesn't belong, not to restrict it from where it does.
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07-08-2013, 01:26 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Some polish thing... With some old engine
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Originally Posted by patrickt
A perfect example of a judicial inclination to extend coverage where it probably doesn't belong, not to restrict it from where it does.
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Sorry Patrick, you've concussed me....
To extend on your comment above in retort to what Pete stated - Are you suggesting that insurances will pay out a policy holder even if they're criminally liable or at fault?
This is not my understanding of how insurance works.
I've a real reluctance to drive billboards bc I don't want the headaches of policy makers should the worst happen. Your position on this makes me feel like I should not care less about using them, but deep down I just can't bring myself to believe that. 
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07-08-2013, 01:57 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Well, alright. I won't belabor the point, but it absolutely astounds me that you don't feel confident in your ability to interpret a simple auto policy. 
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Oh, I can read it and interpret it but I want to make sure the other guy interprets it the same way before there is problem and get it in writing. If you are comfortable with your reading and interpretation don't bother following my suggestion. No problem. Not all of us are as legally sharp or savvy as you...even us lawyers  .
Non of these cars are DOT approved for street use more less BB tires.
Where does the Goodyear site say the BB's are "unsafe" for street use as opposed to not "DOT approved for street use"? There may be/is a difference.
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07-08-2013, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by REAL 1
Not all of us are as legally sharp or savvy as you...even us lawyers  .
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Well dang, I can't ask for any more than that. 
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07-08-2013, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
No, I'm overpaid because of my surly good looks. 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Well dang, I can't ask for any more than that. 
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Of course you can my dear boy, he left off your surly good looks.
Thanks for your clarification.
I'll be sticking with avons. 
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07-08-2013, 08:30 PM
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I think ya'll are putting way too much into this.......if an insurance company doesn't want to pay on a claim your making because of the non DOT tires, than I and any insurance company can make a dam good case not to ever pay on any claim anyone with a Cobra makes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lets see:
non DOT rated 4 pt./5 pt. seat belts
non DOT rated brake lines
non DOT rated brakes (how many after market brake set-ups have you seen in a Jegs/Summit catalog that say DOT RATED????????)
Do you know your racing brake fluid IS NOT DOT RATED AND FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY?????
Non conforming tail lights/brake lights (does not meet the federally required total square inches per light)
non DOT rated wheels
and on and on and on..........
after all, these are kit cars even though some are 90% built on an assembly line or by the manufacter.........
There is not much on any Cobra that IS DOT RATED!!!!!!!!!!
David
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07-09-2013, 04:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAVID GAGNARD
I think ya'll are putting way too much into this.......if an insurance company doesn't want to pay on a claim your making because of the non DOT tires, than I and any insurance company can make a dam good case not to ever pay on any claim anyone with a Cobra makes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lets see:
non DOT rated 4 pt./5 pt. seat belts
non DOT rated brake lines
non DOT rated brakes (how many after market brake set-ups have you seen in a Jegs/Summit catalog that say DOT RATED????????)
Do you know your racing brake fluid IS NOT DOT RATED AND FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY?????
Non conforming tail lights/brake lights (does not meet the federally required total square inches per light)
non DOT rated wheels
and on and on and on..........
after all, these are kit cars even though some are 90% built on an assembly line or by the manufacter.........
There is not much on any Cobra that IS DOT RATED!!!!!!!!!!
David
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That may all be true, but do they actually have wording on them saying the item is for racing purposes only or not intended for street use?
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