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Old 06-12-2014, 10:23 AM
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So I'm confused, why are all the other CSX4000 cars on SAAC all circa $85,000.00
Assuming your question is serious, and I'll keep it brief, there are both aluminum and fiberglass CSX4000's. The aluminum bodied CSX4000's are not anywhere near $85,000. Roughly double that amount. A new completed alloy CSX4000 sits at Hillbank asking $199,000. The bodies of the aluminum CSX4000's are produced by Kirkham. The CSX1000's are all aluminum bodies and were produced in England. The English CSX1000 series are roughly double the value of aluminum CSX4000 series Cobra's.

Again, just a thumbnail sketch and the values I've thrown out can be argued since not many are traded, at least publicly.
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Old 06-12-2014, 05:42 PM
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Assuming your question is serious, and I'll keep it brief, there are both aluminum and fiberglass CSX4000's. The aluminum bodied CSX4000's are not anywhere near $85,000. Roughly double that amount. A new completed alloy CSX4000 sits at Hillbank asking $199,000. The bodies of the aluminum CSX4000's are produced by Kirkham. The CSX1000's are all aluminum bodies and were produced in England. The English CSX1000 series are roughly double the value of aluminum CSX4000 series Cobra's.

Again, just a thumbnail sketch and the values I've thrown out can be argued since not many are traded, at least publicly.
Yes it was a serious question, I was intrigued as to how one person can argue that his car is worth circa $200,000 when there are early number CSX 4000 cars advertised on SAAC (4065,4062,4031 and 4836) with prices ranging from $82,000 to $120,000. I thought all early CSX Cobras were Aluminium, didn't realize the Fibreglass copies started so early.

(For the record I have Kirkham KMP709 with every option and then some including Cammer with 8 stack so I know what I have spent.)
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Old 06-12-2014, 05:57 PM
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Yes it was a serious question, I was intrigued as to how one person can argue that his car is worth circa $200,000 when there are early number CSX 4000 cars advertised on SAAC (4065,4062,4031 and 4836) with prices ranging from $82,000 to $120,000. I thought all early CSX Cobras were Aluminium, didn't realize the Fibreglass copies started so early.

(For the record I have Kirkham KMP709 with every option and then some including Cammer with 8 stack so I know what I have spent.)
$80,000-$120,000 is fiberglass CSX territory. There's a beautiful black CSX (fiberglass) asking $120K on Cobra Country with an 8-stack EFI 526ci engine that looks outstanding.

No affiliation, but here's alloy CSX4389 advertised for $165,000 here in CA:

Mohr Imports, Inc.

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1965 Shelby Cobra 427 CSX 4000 Aluminum Body | eBay
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... No affiliation, but here's alloy CSX4389 advertised for $165,000 here in CA:

Mohr Imports, Inc. ...
Basically new with 300 mi, top notch build with SB-100 smog exemption. He will probably get close to the $165K ask imo. What do you think HRE would appraise this one at, ~$260K or so being almost brand spanking new?
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Quick, somebody tell (un) Real1 about that one. He will probably rush out and snap it up and then flip it to one of his buddies who offered to pay him $260K for his. Easiest $100K profit ever made. Right Evan?

Oh, now I see why it is selling for $100K less than Evan's is "worth". No genuine Shelby continuation glove box, door panels or trunk carpet!

Yeah, that's the reason!
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Quick, somebody tell (un) Real1 about that one. He will probably rush out and snap it up and then flip it to one of his buddies who offered to pay him $260K for his. Easiest $100K profit ever made. Right Evan?

Oh, now I see why it is selling for $100K less than Evan's is "worth". No genuine Shelby continuation glove box, door panels or trunk carpet!

Yeah, that's the reason!
Nice car but not overly detailed but a very good buy considering the price and wait for a new alloy Shelby rolling chassis. The Hillbank car is a nicer car and the price reflects it although i think the silver car is underpriced a bit but hey, it's his car. Jhv48 nows your chance to step up from a licensed pretend Cobra to a real Cobra at a great price.

Oh, I wasn't offered $260k. Not selling. I do have a very detailed build sheet from HRE specifying the cost breakdown today to reproduce CSX 4206. Well over $200k.

HRE didn't give me an appraisal. He gave me a detailed cost breakdown in today's dollars to replace my Cobra as it sits.

Hillbank also appears to have 2 alloy Shelbys offered at $200k.
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Nice car but not overly detailed but a very good buy considering the price and wait for a new alloy Shelby rolling chassis. The Hillbank car is a nicer car and the price reflects it although i think the silver car is underpriced a bit but hey, it's his car. Jhv48 nows your chance to step up from a licensed pretend Cobra to a real Cobra at a great price.

Oh, I wasn't offered $260k. Not selling. I do have a very detailed build sheet from HRE specifying the cost breakdown today to reproduce CSX 4206. Well over $200k.

HRE didn't give me an appraisal. He gave me a detailed cost breakdown in today's dollars to replace my Cobra as it sits.

Hillbank also appears to have 2 alloy Shelbys offered at $200k.
Sure there are quite few small-ish type details to change on CSX4389, but the engine has Carrillo rods, a steel billet crank and a $10,000+ EFI system. Not a cheap motor.

And for the CA residents, already having the CA SB100 exemption is a HUGE plus. The flipper of Mark Thompson's old Kirkham, also on eBay, should quickly rethink his $155,000 or best offer price, although I do prefer polished aluminum to paint.
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Jhv48 nows your chance to step up from a licensed pretend Cobra to a real Cobra at a great price.0k.
Sorry, Real1, no one to impress on this coast. This ain't Joisey!
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