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Old 06-12-2014, 09:17 PM
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Quick, somebody tell (un) Real1 about that one. He will probably rush out and snap it up and then flip it to one of his buddies who offered to pay him $260K for his. Easiest $100K profit ever made. Right Evan?

Oh, now I see why it is selling for $100K less than Evan's is "worth". No genuine Shelby continuation glove box, door panels or trunk carpet!

Yeah, that's the reason!
Nice car but not overly detailed but a very good buy considering the price and wait for a new alloy Shelby rolling chassis. The Hillbank car is a nicer car and the price reflects it although i think the silver car is underpriced a bit but hey, it's his car. Jhv48 nows your chance to step up from a licensed pretend Cobra to a real Cobra at a great price.

Oh, I wasn't offered $260k. Not selling. I do have a very detailed build sheet from HRE specifying the cost breakdown today to reproduce CSX 4206. Well over $200k.

HRE didn't give me an appraisal. He gave me a detailed cost breakdown in today's dollars to replace my Cobra as it sits.

Hillbank also appears to have 2 alloy Shelbys offered at $200k.
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Nice car but not overly detailed but a very good buy considering the price and wait for a new alloy Shelby rolling chassis. The Hillbank car is a nicer car and the price reflects it although i think the silver car is underpriced a bit but hey, it's his car. Jhv48 nows your chance to step up from a licensed pretend Cobra to a real Cobra at a great price.

Oh, I wasn't offered $260k. Not selling. I do have a very detailed build sheet from HRE specifying the cost breakdown today to reproduce CSX 4206. Well over $200k.

HRE didn't give me an appraisal. He gave me a detailed cost breakdown in today's dollars to replace my Cobra as it sits.

Hillbank also appears to have 2 alloy Shelbys offered at $200k.
Sure there are quite few small-ish type details to change on CSX4389, but the engine has Carrillo rods, a steel billet crank and a $10,000+ EFI system. Not a cheap motor.

And for the CA residents, already having the CA SB100 exemption is a HUGE plus. The flipper of Mark Thompson's old Kirkham, also on eBay, should quickly rethink his $155,000 or best offer price, although I do prefer polished aluminum to paint.
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Jhv48 nows your chance to step up from a licensed pretend Cobra to a real Cobra at a great price.0k.
Sorry, Real1, no one to impress on this coast. This ain't Joisey!
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Sorry, Real1, no one to impress on this coast. This ain't Joisey!
Forget about impressing people, how about for some good old (or new) Benjamin's? Buy CSX4389 low, say $150,000, sell high, $200,000 minimum, maybe more, if you knock out some details.

New alloy CSX roller's are $160,000. There's money to be made here.

Kinda makes sense to buy used. I should have learned that lesson.
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Forget about impressing people, how about for some good old (or new) Benjamin's? Buy CSX4389 low, say $150,000, sell high, $200,000 minimum, maybe more, if you knock out some details.

New alloy CSX roller's are $160,000. There's money to be made here.

Kinda makes sense to buy used. I should have learned that lesson.
First, is the kirkham ad on Ebay accurate that the build cost $180k and there is a one year wait? If so seem like a fair price to moi.

Detailing a build is expensive and time consuming. Time is also money. Accuracy ads tremendous value to these cars. I think the price on CSX 4389 is a great price though. Hillbank has two Cobras offered for $200k.

Pricing varies seller to seller with all cars based on the specific car and degree of motivation on the buyers part.

I see SPFs advertised for close to $80k now. Really? ...for a pretend Cobra? Why should I pay $80k for a Spf fake Cobra when I could buy a beautifully built FFR which is as nice , actually nicer in some respects and just as fake for $40k less. Hmm. Those Spf's are way over priced. I can buy a beautiful detailed and built ERA for less too which is without question head and shoulders above a Spf.

Rodknock I think you missed your calling. You should be a Cobra pricing consultant.
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... I see SPFs advertised for close to $80k now. Really? ...for a pretend Cobra? Why should I pay $80k for a Spf fake Cobra when I could buy a beautifully built FFR which is as nice , actually nicer in some respects and just as fake for $40k less ...
Now, apply that brief moment of lucidity as follows ...
I see CSX continuations advertised for close to $200k now. Really?...for a continuation Cobra? Why should I pay $200k for a continuation Cobra when I could buy a beautifully built Kirkham Cobra which is as nice, actually nicer in some respects for $80k less?

Kirkhams will always keep over priced csx continuations in check just as FFRs/ERAs/BDRs will always keep over priced SPFs in check.
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Now, apply that brief moment of lucidity as follows ...
I see CSX continuations advertised for close to $200k now. Really?...for a continuation Cobra? Why should I pay $200k for a continuation Cobra when I could buy a beautifully built Kirkham Cobra which is as nice, actually nicer in some respects for $80k less?

Kirkhams will always keep over priced csx continuations in check just as FFRs/ERAs/BDRs will always keep over priced SPFs in check.
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I think the price on CSX 4389 is a great price though. Hillbank has two Cobras offered for $200k.
CSX4389 is priced more realistically. Hillbank is a dealer and can floor their cars indefinitely. The fact is not one of them is sold. Nowithstanding, if someone here thinks they can get $200-250K for anyone of them, then there's a "flip for profit" opportunity. Go for it.
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CSX4389 is priced more realistically. Hillbank is a dealer and can floor their cars indefinitely. The fact is not one of them is sold. Nowithstanding, if someone here thinks they can get $200-250K for anyone of them, then there's a "flip for profit" opportunity. Go for it.
Yes. Of course. You should consult with them on their pricing.
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I see SPFs advertised for close to $80k now. Really? ...for a pretend Cobra? Why should I pay $80k for a Spf fake Cobra when I could buy a beautifully built FFR which is as nice , actually nicer in some respects and just as fake for $40k less. Hmm. Those Spf's are way over priced. I can buy a beautiful detailed and built ERA for less too which is without question head and shoulders above a Spf.

Rodknock I think you missed your calling. You should be a Cobra pricing consultant.
It's quite hilarious that you always complain about all the people on CC criticizing your Continuation Cobra but here you are clearly being the instigator and on the attack.

Take a look in the mirror because your logic applies to you and your Fake of the original too. You are such a broken record, no one cares you own a Continuation Fake. Move on with your life and just focus on driving it and having fun.
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It's quite hilarious that you always complain about all the people on CC criticizing your Continuation Cobra but here you are clearly being the instigator and on the attack.

Take a look in the mirror because your logic applies to you and your Fake of the original too. You are such a broken record, no one cares you own a Continuation Fake. Move on with your life and just focus on driving it and having fun.
it is hilarious! The guy with the faker hot rod calls out the guy with an authentic Shelby Cobra.

What does your car title say, "South African hot rod", "Cobra replica", "Cobra kit"? Do you pay less fees at the DMV when they look up your car in Kelly Blue book/SAAC Registry?

It seems a lot of high dollar non-Shelby cobra owners are embarrassed & defensive when peeps keep asking them, "is yours real?" They need to justify the $$$ spent with a long, fictional story about their rides.
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Spoken like a wannabe!
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it is hilarious! The guy with the faker hot rod calls out the guy with an authentic Shelby Cobra.

What does your car title say, "South African hot rod", "Cobra replica", "Cobra kit"? Do you pay less fees at the DMV when they look up your car in Kelly Blue book/SAAC Registry?

It seems a lot of high dollar non-Shelby cobra owners are embarrassed & defensive when peeps keep asking them, "is yours real?" They need to justify the $$$ spent with a long, fictional story about their rides.
Excellent post and spot on! Comical aren't they?
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What does your car title say, "South African hot rod", "Cobra replica", "Cobra kit"? Do you pay less fees at the DMV when they look up your car in Kelly Blue book/SAAC Registry?
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My title simply says "1965 Ford Cobra" - most DMV people don't know a Honda Accord from a Ford Fiesta from a 1969 Ford Mach 1. I wanted a no-annual-renewal-fee antique car plate on it so that's what I got.
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It's quite hilarious that you always complain about all the people on CC criticizing your Continuation Cobra but here you are clearly being the instigator and on the attack.

Take a look in the mirror because your logic applies to you and your Fake of the original too. You are such a broken record, no one cares you own a Continuation Fake. Move on with your life and just focus on driving it and having fun.
Ooh someone's a little sensative. You sure can dish it out...

No I don't complain I just keep the facts straight for those that visit by using my CC pooper scooper to remove the informational turds left by the peanut gallery.

You can't even get your insults straight. You really need to read what you post more carefully.

In the meantime the facts, the law and the Registry are very clear. Yes we all know BuddyG and the Peanut Gallery have their own little view. Hey you guys could start a band. Kinda catchy name. Your first song title should be "Sour Grapes".
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No I don't complain I just keep the facts straight for those that visit by using my CC pooper scooper to remove the informational turds left by the peanut gallery.
Yes, let's keep the facts straight and I've also got to get out my pooper scooper.

Shelby Cobra Continuations are NOT $200K cars. You can "wax on" and/or "wax off" about a build sheet from HRE for $245K, but anyone can be taken advantage of and spend zillions on their build. Or cajole an insurance company into thinking their car is worth $245K by using a "toilet paper appraisal". The fact of the matter is that there's an unsold CSX alloy asking $165K.

So let's get REAL and scoop some poop.
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Is that why your only driving a pretend Cobra?
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Is that why your only driving a pretend Cobra?
Yep! Bought it for the driving experience only. Seemed to be the best value for the money.

When queried, I respond that it is, indeed, a kit car, as you should!
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