I want a Cobra,

[69boss429]

See other cars for sale section Boss 429
I would consider a partial trade for a Superperformance Cobra

[BossCER]

Beautiful car. Good luck with the sale.

[69boss429]

Originally Posted by BossCER

Beautiful car. Good luck with the sale.

Thanks BossCER,
I have looked at the pics of your Cobra with the Boss engine many times and still drool over it.It looks like it was meant to be in there.
That is my dream Cobra(what kit did you use),but I wouldn't mind having a beautiful little slabside with a proper 289 in it.After dealing with the Boss crowded engine compartment having some room to work would be a pleasure.
Dave

[tkb289]

Dave,

If you are thinking about a 289 car, you might consider an ERA FIA. ERA makes a beautiful FIA and they come up for sale from time to time.

They have also started making slab sides, but you decide to order a car … slab side, FIA or 427 ... it will take some time, but definitely with the wait.

Best of luck with the sale, that's one rare and beautiful Boss 429 !

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by 69boss429

but I wouldn't mind having a beautiful little slabside with a proper 289 in it.

Sorta like these?

[69boss429]

Originally Posted by Mark IV

Sorta like these?

Yes,in basic black of course !

[69boss429]

Originally Posted by tkb289

Dave,

If you are thinking about a 289 car, you might consider an ERA FIA. ERA makes a beautiful FIA and they come up for sale from time to time.

They have also started making slab sides, but you decide to order a car … slab side, FIA or 427 ... it will take some time, but definitely with the wait.

Best of luck with the sale, that's one rare and beautiful Boss 429 !

Thank you!
Open to all suggestions from anyone on this forum,and would consider ERA as well in the FIA style

[Three Peaks]

You might have better luck selling your Mustang outright and using the proceeds to buy the Cobra you are looking for, IMHO. This will give you more time to look for just the right Cobra for you and the money in your pocket to buy immediately once you find it.

For the most part, AC Cobra guys aren't necessarily Mustang guys and trying to make a trade may limit your choices and market size.

As far as Cobras go, the Superformance slabsides are beautiful cars, but you will need to decide if you want a 427SC, 427 street, 289 FIA (wide hips somewhat like the 427), 289 slabside, 289 with leaf spring or coilover suspension, or some hybrid of the different styles. A 427 SC with a potent small block- 351W based stroker or the like, will be more than enough car to make you happy and give you the access you are looking for to work on it. Also, the 427 SC cars are more numerous so you'll have a larger market to choose from.

All my opinion, of course, but keep in mind that sometimes the shopping for a Cobra of any type is half the fun. Don't expect to get to test drive all of the Cobras you are interested in- I'm not sure I would let a prospective buyer test drive mine.....

Bob

[BossCER]

Originally Posted by 69boss429

Thanks BossCER,
I have looked at the pics of your Cobra with the Boss engine many times and still drool over it.It looks like it was meant to be in there.
That is my dream Cobra(what kit did you use),but I wouldn't mind having a beautiful little slabside with a proper 289 in it.After dealing with the Boss crowded engine compartment having some room to work would be a pleasure.
Dave

Dave,
I used a little known company out of Manteca, Ca. They basically built the car around the Boss motor. Cutting Edge is the name of the co. While they are still in business as a CNC machining co (DKW Machine) I believe they have stopped producing their Cobra chasis.
Again, good luck with the sale of your car.
Chris

[MRGEORGE077]

Kinda like this?

Originally Posted by 69boss429

Yes,in basic black of course !

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by 69boss429

See other cars for sale section Boss 429
I would consider a partial trade for a Superperformance Cobra

Sure, your car even up for my ERA

I think you would be better served putting your car up on Ebay, or having Bill Collins broker it for you.


Bill S.

[Mark IV]

Bill's point is well given.

A specialized sale like a B9 happens often inside a close knit community.When a vendor who is known for selling "pedigreed" cars offers a
B9, most buyers will have no worries. If I take it on trade and offer it for sale it is coming from an "unknown" in the B9 community and it will not sell as fast or likely for as much.

The buyers and sellers of many of the rare, high dollar car types are actually a little "inbred" in that the cars rarely leave a small group of owners, they often just do a daisy chain.

[Bartruff1]

Originally Posted by MRGEORGE077

Kinda like this?

Car porn....I likey...

[69boss429]

All good ideas and point taken,however,I decided to post the sale here because most if not all of the members of this board seem the type to enjoy their cars on the open road.
A good many of the "Boss 429" community rarely ever do that,simply content to look at their piece of history.
Don't get me wrong,I enjoy looking at perfectly restored cars as well,just not row upon row of the same ones.
Being the original owner I went through the initial phase of babying,washing,waxing,and just enjoying ownership.
That lasted for the first couple thousand miles.
Oh I still cared loveingly for it but also drove the snot out of it and drag raced every chance I got.That was phase 2
Then came the modifications,I worked at Hank's Speed Shop in Berwyn Pa in the early 70's and it was like being in the candy store with carbs,headers,traction bars,etc at my disposal.
Then came the gas crisis,a tour with my Uncle Sam,marriage children,etc,and the Boss was tucked away for over 30 years.
In early 2002 I decided it was time to bring back the Boss and with a Boss cars Reunion coming up in 2005 at Carlisle I had a deadline.
I didn't want a concours trailer car I wanted a performance car the way it should have come from the factory if you could build it the way you wanted.

At the Boss cars reunion I got a lot of looks and comments including many saying why did you do such and such and not restore it to stock.
Boring !
The highlight of the reunion was an award from Dr.John Craft,author of several Ford and Mustang books

John wrote to me.
"I really liked your Boss '9.I especiallyliked the fact that you clearly built it to drive!That made it much more interesting to me than the typical run of the mill concours car.Of course,the incredible attention to detail and the overall quality of the work done to the car speak for themselves"

I really respect the fact that the vast majority of members here drive not only their hand built replicas but the original Cobras as well.
So,if anyone has a Cobra that they want to trade along with a pile of cash I'd rather the Boss go to someone here that can appreciate and enjoy it then to a garage to be uncovered once in awhile to be stared at

[mrmustang]

The other problem I see is that you are asking above private party "concourse" pricing for a car that is not concourse level. Most who are willing to spend the big bucks, expect the car to be 100% stock. While yours is ultra clean, and tastefully modified, it is not anyone elses idea of the dream except yours as the owner. One day you'll understand what I am saying, but speaking with you last year at the LVSAAC show in Hershey(among other venues we were both at), you were still not ready to hear, or understand where I was coming from.

Respectfully submitted,


Bill S.

Originally Posted by 69boss429

All good ideas and point taken,however,I decided to post the sale here because most if not all of the members of this board seem the type to enjoy their cars on the open road.
A good many of the "Boss 429" community rarely ever do that,simply content to look at their piece of history.
Don't get me wrong,I enjoy looking at perfectly restored cars as well,just not row upon row of the same ones.
Being the original owner I went through the initial phase of babying,washing,waxing,and just enjoying ownership.
That lasted for the first couple thousand miles.
Oh I still cared loveingly for it but also drove the snot out of it and drag raced every chance I got.That was phase 2
Then came the modifications,I worked at Hank's Speed Shop in Berwyn Pa in the early 70's and it was like being in the candy store with carbs,headers,traction bars,etc at my disposal.
Then came the gas crisis,a tour with my Uncle Sam,marriage children,etc,and the Boss was tucked away for over 30 years.
In early 2002 I decided it was time to bring back the Boss and with a Boss cars Reunion coming up in 2005 at Carlisle I had a deadline.
I didn't want a concours trailer car I wanted a performance car the way it should have come from the factory if you could build it the way you wanted.

At the Boss cars reunion I got a lot of looks and comments including many saying why did you do such and such and not restore it to stock.
Boring !
The highlight of the reunion was an award from Dr.John Craft,author of several Ford and Mustang books

John wrote to me.
"I really liked your Boss '9.I especiallyliked the fact that you clearly built it to drive!That made it much more interesting to me than the typical run of the mill concours car.Of course,the incredible attention to detail and the overall quality of the work done to the car speak for themselves"

I really respect the fact that the vast majority of members here drive not only their hand built replicas but the original Cobras as well.
So,if anyone has a Cobra that they want to trade along with a pile of cash I'd rather the Boss go to someone here that can appreciate and enjoy it then to a garage to be uncovered once in awhile to be stared at

[Mark IV]

Bill,

You hit one of my "Hot" buttons. Go to Wikipedia or wherever and look up "concourse" vs. "concours"

[69boss429]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

The other problem I see is that you are asking above private party "concourse" pricing for a car that is not concourse level. Most who are willing to spend the big bucks, expect the car to be 100% stock. While yours is ultra clean, and tastefully modified, it is not anyone elses idea of the dream except yours as the owner. One day you'll understand what I am saying, but speaking with you last year at the LVSAAC show in Hershey(among other venues we were both at), you were still not ready to hear, or understand where I was coming from.

Respectfully submitted,


Bill S.

I've heard you on this subject before and you and I will continue to agree to disagree.
Except on the "Concours" issue as mark IV hits the nail on the head.A concourse is found at a mall or airport or other large public area and the term is constantly misused when describing a "Concours" restoration or something shown at a "Concours d' Elegance" event.

As far as pricing goes,there are few if any 1 owner Boss 429's and there were only 93 Raven Black ones that were built out of a total run in 1969 of 859 cars.
Can you say rare!
Even at my asking price of 265000,if one wanted to return it to "Concours " and have a trailer queen the total investement would still be in the market area.
Now if one wanted to purchase the car without the original parts that I would include I would price it at 250000 .By the way if you look at stock Boss parts prices are quite high.Just ask Steve Strange
I suspect that the original owners of modified Cobras that race them might see my point,that is to say performance and safety mods are reversible if that's what you want in a car.
One thing for sure is that they aren't making them anymore so values can still climb.IMHO
But, I didn't post here to argue numbers I came looking for a buyer.If one comes of it I will then have a Cobra to talk about.
But it won't be original and it won't be built to 60's specs.
It will be fast,safe as posible,and damn good looking.
I would however miss the Boss as there is never an instance of it drawing crowds whenever I take it out to a show or just for a cruise.You might ask why that is and I submit to you that unless you go to a Concours event you rarely see one in public

[mrmustang]

Yes, auto correct stinks, I'm surprised I got that much out of my one finger typing

Once the car is sold, it is no longer a one owner car, so that argument goes out the window. Same goes for originality in regards to your car. The high ticket BOSS 9 cars have all of the original parts installed. yes, to replace those parts and undo your customization is expensive. Since your car holds no current or past race records, that argument also gets thrown out as you are now comparing apples to grapefruits. Again, no offense, but you really cannot compare your car to a know famously owned car, or a car that is restored to 100% original. There is a reason why several BOSS 9's have sold recently (as late as last week in Delaware) and your car sits stagnant on the market. Again, your car is a stunning automobile, but there is not enough of a draw to it "as currently presented". . Steve was at last years show, as well as this years, we (he and I) and others have all discussed your car at length.....I'll leave it at that.

Again I do wish you the best of luck with your cars sale.

Sincerely,

Bill S.

Originally Posted by 69boss429

I've heard you on this subject before and you and I will continue to agree to disagree.
Except on the "Concours" issue as mark IV hits the nail on the head.A concourse is found at a mall or airport or other large public area and the term is constantly misused when describing a "Concours" restoration or something shown at a "Concours d' Elegance" event.

As far as pricing goes,there are few if any 1 owner Boss 429's and there were only 93 Raven Black ones that were built out of a total run in 1969 of 859 cars.
Can you say rare!
Even at my asking price of 265000,if one wanted to return it to "Concours " and have a trailer queen the total investement would still be in the market area.
Now if one wanted to purchase the car without the original parts that I would include I would price it at 250000 .By the way if you look at stock Boss parts prices are quite high.Just ask Steve Strange
I suspect that the original owners of modified Cobras that race them might see my point,that is to say performance and safety mods are reversible if that's what you want in a car.
One thing for sure is that they aren't making them anymore so values can still climb.IMHO
But, I didn't post here to argue numbers I came looking for a buyer.If one comes of it I will then have a Cobra to talk about.
But it won't be original and it won't be built to 60's specs.
It will be fast,safe as posible,and damn good looking.
I would however miss the Boss as there is never an instance of it drawing crowds whenever I take it out to a show or just for a cruise.You might ask why that is and I submit to you that unless you go to a Concours event you rarely see one in public

[Three Peaks]

Originally Posted by 69boss429

I've heard you on this subject before and you and I will continue to agree to disagree.
Except on the "Concours" issue as mark IV hits the nail on the head.A concourse is found at a mall or airport or other large public area and the term is constantly misused when describing a "Concours" restoration or something shown at a "Concours d' Elegance" event.

As far as pricing goes,there are few if any 1 owner Boss 429's and there were only 93 Raven Black ones that were built out of a total run in 1969 of 859 cars.
Can you say rare!
Even at my asking price of 265000,if one wanted to return it to "Concours " and have a trailer queen the total investement would still be in the market area.
Now if one wanted to purchase the car without the original parts that I would include I would price it at 250000 .By the way if you look at stock Boss parts prices are quite high.Just ask Steve Strange
I suspect that the original owners of modified Cobras that race them might see my point,that is to say performance and safety mods are reversible if that's what you want in a car.
One thing for sure is that they aren't making them anymore so values can still climb.IMHO
But, I didn't post here to argue numbers I came looking for a buyer.If one comes of it I will then have a Cobra to talk about.
But it won't be original and it won't be built to 60's specs.
It will be fast,safe as posible,and damn good looking.
I would however miss the Boss as there is never an instance of it drawing crowds whenever I take it out to a show or just for a cruise.You might ask why that is and I submit to you that unless you go to a Concours event you rarely see one in public

Not trying to pee on your cornflakes, but I am just curious where your valuation came from? Is that pricing from an appraiser or more of a "seat of the pants" sort of valuation? Since there are so few of some of these cars on the market at any time, I have always been curious how someone can place any sort of realistic price on them- unless the owner isn't really interested in selling- then just about anything goes I guess......

Bob

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by 69boss429

I would consider a partial trade for a Superperformance Cobra

"Partial trade"..... we HAVE a deal. I will supply the best SPF EVER plus your B9 and $1000.00. Where do I ship to?