Club Cobra Keith Craft Racing  

Go Back   Club Cobra > Cobra Talk Areas > ALL COBRA TALK

MMG Superformance
Nevada Classics
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
Keith Craft Racing
Keith Craft Racing
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
Keith Craft Racing
MMG Superformance
April 2024
S M T W T F S
  1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30        

Kirkham Motorsports

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-10-2014, 07:00 PM
Bill E's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Redding, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Cobra Maker
Posts: 722
Send a message via AIM to Bill E Send a message via Yahoo to Bill E
Not Ranked     
Default Identify Early (Shelby?) Injection

Some gal brought me an early fuel injection that her deceased husband had been saving before he passed away. The story she gave me was that "there were only two of these built for Carol Shelby". The numbers on the part show serial numbers of 12 and 24 so I'm not sure that's accurate. The address on the part is:

4500 Sinoma Highway,
Santa Rosa, California,
95405

The part says "Hill, Model J" and a model number of 3.182974.
Can anyone identify this part?

__________________
Bill Emerson
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03-11-2014, 01:14 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Vancouver, BC
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 19
Not Ranked     
Default

No idea about the "built for Shelby" part but i've never seen or heard of one like that. Also not sure about "early" since there is a Zip code on that address.

Looks like it was to fit any four barrel manifold and the height of it might not even fit under a Cobra or GT350 hood.

Very unique anyways!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 03-11-2014, 04:58 AM
Tom Wells's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: St. Augustine, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: E-M / Power Performance / 521 stroker / Holley HP EFI
Posts: 1,912
Not Ranked     
Default

Bill E,

Actually the number you referred to as a model number appears to be a patent number. Here's one reference to it: Carburetor - Roger, Hill Raymond

It describes a "Fuel injector for fluid pumps for internal combustion engines" published 05/11/1965, authored by Roger, Hill Raymond.

Interestingly, the device is referred to as a "carburetor" in the rest of the description.

Not sure where to go from here - don't have time to pursue, but perhaps you or someone reading this can take it another step...

Tom

PS: This appears to be a more complete reference: http://www.google.com/patents/US3182974
Good luck interpreting the legalese!
__________________
Wells's law of engine size: If it matters what gear you're in, the engine's too small!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 03-11-2014, 05:55 AM
mrmustang's Avatar
CC Member/Contributor
Visit my Photo Gallery
Gold Star Contributor
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville, SC
Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-FIA, 66 mustang convertible, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
Posts: 12,627
Not Ranked     
Default

Bill,

Not a Shelby supported item, not built for them either.

Sorry


Bill S.
__________________
Instead of being part of the problem, be part of a successful solution.

First time Cobra buyers-READ THIS
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 03-11-2014, 08:51 AM
Bill E's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Redding, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Cobra Maker
Posts: 722
Send a message via AIM to Bill E Send a message via Yahoo to Bill E
Not Ranked     
Default

Thanks for the info. I will let her know she also told me the name of the guy that gave it to her husband Bob Gunderson
__________________
Bill Emerson
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 03-11-2014, 01:26 PM
Z-linkCobra's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Edinburg, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: Everett Morrison, All aluminum small block ford.
Posts: 436
Not Ranked     
Default

I wonder if this pc is possibly related to a hillborn injection. None the less it looks like an interesting pc.

Is it for sale?

Gene
__________________
" If it wont break em loose in 3rd gear, it aint enough power "
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03-11-2014, 06:07 PM
Bill E's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Redding, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Cobra Maker
Posts: 722
Send a message via AIM to Bill E Send a message via Yahoo to Bill E
Not Ranked     
Default

She wont's to sale it but. I think she may have an over inflated idea of its value. Make an offer and I will see if she is willing. I think it would fit a cobra. but I would wont to play with it on a dyno to see what it is all about. If you were doing a display motor it would be cool O was thinking of installing it on a direct port manifold and using it as a throttle body
__________________
Bill Emerson
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 03-11-2014, 06:08 PM
Bill E's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Redding, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Cobra Maker
Posts: 722
Send a message via AIM to Bill E Send a message via Yahoo to Bill E
Not Ranked     
Default

Hello,
Thanks for your inquiry. Our sa;es specialists do not recognize this system at all. It’s not a Hilborn for sure.


Kim Mann
Customer Service
Hilborn Fuel Injection
22892 Glenwood Drive
Aliso Viejo, CA 92656
info@HilbornInjection.com
Hilborn Fuel Injectors
P: 949-360-0909
F: 949-360-0991
__________________
Bill Emerson
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 03-12-2014, 12:29 PM
Bill E's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Redding, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Cobra Maker
Posts: 722
Send a message via AIM to Bill E Send a message via Yahoo to Bill E
Not Ranked     
Default

Tom thanks for the info.
__________________
Bill Emerson
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 03-12-2014, 12:38 PM
Bill E's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Redding, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Cobra Maker
Posts: 722
Send a message via AIM to Bill E Send a message via Yahoo to Bill E
Not Ranked     
Default

So this is a carburetor. She is willing to let it go if any one will make an offer on it. I am going to give her 100 bucks if no one comes up with moor. Just becuse it looks cool.
__________________
Bill Emerson
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 03-12-2014, 12:58 PM
Z-linkCobra's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Edinburg, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: Everett Morrison, All aluminum small block ford.
Posts: 436
Not Ranked     
Default

I Would really like to have it. Ill give her $150.

Gene

If you can take my card send me a pm and ill call you. Ill pay shipping of course and your card fee if you need me to.
__________________
" If it wont break em loose in 3rd gear, it aint enough power "
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 03-13-2014, 01:03 PM
Z-linkCobra's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Edinburg, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: Everett Morrison, All aluminum small block ford.
Posts: 436
Not Ranked     
Default

Patent US3182974 - Carburetor - Google Patents


Did a patent search on that #. This is what I came up with. Somewhat similar but not exactly the same. I would imagine this is a later or earlier version. Interesting stuff. I wonder if the old man is still around?
__________________
" If it wont break em loose in 3rd gear, it aint enough power "
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 03-13-2014, 06:37 PM
Bill E's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Redding, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Cobra Maker
Posts: 722
Send a message via AIM to Bill E Send a message via Yahoo to Bill E
Not Ranked     
Default

I did a search on hid name and it looks like he passed away in 85. these must have worked ok because it looks like there were several generations of them. would like to talk to some one who ran one.
__________________
Bill Emerson
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 03-14-2014, 08:47 AM
Z-linkCobra's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Edinburg, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: Everett Morrison, All aluminum small block ford.
Posts: 436
Not Ranked     
Default

Does she want to sell it? Never did get back to me.

Gene
__________________
" If it wont break em loose in 3rd gear, it aint enough power "
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
420, bill, fuel injection, shelby


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:47 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy
Links monetized by VigLink