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04-14-2014, 01:51 PM
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Man all those Shelby Mustang Cobra owners are gonna be PISSED! How dare Ford and Shelby put the Cobra Name and Emblem on the cars. Did they get permission from SAAC?
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04-14-2014, 03:09 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 86 Everett Morrison 90" WB. 428 FE
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Real1, seriously you got your car cash from boxing. However you've taken a few to many head blows.
You said, "here is what the SAAC is saying." Most people use that phrase as to explain part of something that's written. However, you copy and paste the damn thing and offer no further analysis. Wow! Damn your so insightful.
Next you misplaced where the parenthesis are placed. AND THE KEY WORD IS REAL! THAT'S PART OF YOUR USER NAME. AND AGAIN RIGHT OVER YOUR HEAD.
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04-14-2014, 03:13 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Real1, seriously you got your car cash from boxing. However you've taken a few to many head blows.
You said, "here is what the SAAC is saying." Most people use that phrase as to explain part of something that's written. However, you copy and paste the damn thing and offer no further analysis. Wow! Damn your so insightful.
Next you misplaced where the parenthesis are placed. AND THE KEY WORD IS REAL! THAT'S PART OF YOUR USER NAME. AND AGAIN RIGHT OVER YOUR HEAD.
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04-14-2014, 03:27 PM
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Mother ship, Shelby American son.
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04-14-2014, 03:38 PM
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Mother ship, Shelby American son.
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04-14-2014, 03:43 PM
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Yeah only a blurb. Which can be described as a promotional statement. Key word statement. Or a advertisement or notice. LOL Only a Blurb.
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04-14-2014, 04:14 PM
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Ralph: Do you by chance wear tin foil hats? 
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04-14-2014, 04:23 PM
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Am I reading this wrong, but I think the SAAC refered to the CSX4000 and CSX7000 as replicas? LOL
"However, all three factors separate Shelby’s current cars from all the rest of the Cobra replicas, AC MK IVs, COB/COX continuation cars, etc. So, to our way of thinking, the current crop of Cobras are genuine but are not original."
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04-14-2014, 04:27 PM
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Damn pad sucks! 
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04-14-2014, 04:30 PM
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Am I reading this wrong, but I think the SAAC refered to the CSX4000 and CSX7000 as replicas? LOL
"However, all three factors separate Shelby’s current cars from all the rest of the Cobra replicas, AC MK IVs, COB/COX continuation cars, etc. So, to our way of thinking, the current crop of Cobras are genuine but are not original."
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04-14-2014, 04:33 PM
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Shelby and Factory Five Racing have been going at it for years. Back in 2000, Shelby filed suit against the Massachusetts-based replica builder, which resulted in Factory Five being allowed to continue building cars as long as it made no reference to the terms "Cobra," "427 S/C," "Shelby," "Shelby Cobra," "Daytona Coupe" or "Daytona Coupe Cobra."
I'm sure all the replica builders were watching closely the outcome of this litigation and thankful FFR footed the bill to take it to court. So the SAAC Registry is following the guidelines of that litigation's final ruling, they have no choice. Now you know why Shelby American has a lock on "Cobra" and 3rd party manufacturers can't use it, the court has made its' ruling.
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04-14-2014, 04:56 PM
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I'm curious as to how good the Everett Morrison kit car replica is to the CSX genuine Cobra.
Ralphy, measure the geometric apex from the outside of all 4 wheel wells and provide (in inches) to REAL 1 for comparison. I'm betting the Everett Morrison kit car replica is +/- .2" from a genuine Cobra which is pretty good.
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04-14-2014, 05:09 PM
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I'm curious as to how good the Everett Morrison kit car replica is to the CSX genuine Cobra.
Ralphy, measure the geometric apex from the outside of all 4 wheel wells and provide (in inches) to REAL 1 for comparison. I'm betting the Everett Morrison kit car replica is +/- .2" from a genuine Cobra which is pretty good.
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Are you meaning, top center of the wheel well? Over the axle centerline, width? I said a manufacture copied an original, I'm pretty sure it was EM. He stated at the time companies copied a continuation. And I stated continuations came later/after many started to build. More bs, they had even gave the chassis number.
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04-14-2014, 05:51 PM
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Quote:
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Are you meaning, top center of the wheel well? Over the axle centerline, width? I said a manufacture copied an original, I'm pretty sure it was EM. He stated at the time companies copied a continuation. And I stated continuations came later/after many started to build. More bs, they had even gave the chassis number.
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Geometric apex = center of the curve = top center of the well, and measurement would have been apex to apex on each side.
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04-14-2014, 07:31 PM
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hey evan: you never answered my question of several pages ago. if the saac regestry didn't exist would your car still be real?????
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04-15-2014, 04:31 AM
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hey evan: you never answered my question of several pages ago. if the saac regestry didn't exist would your car still be real?????
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If a tree falls in the Forrest and you don't know it fell has it still fallen?
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04-14-2014, 05:06 PM
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You mean I have to take the cobra emblems off my Bennett car???? I wonder what emblem will fit the holes.
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04-14-2014, 05:54 PM
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just enjoy the ride ride ride!!!
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04-14-2014, 06:36 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Enjoyed CSX 2306 as a daily driver and weekend toy. Hooked my brother Jim on Cobras. Sold it to Ned in the spring of 1972.
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Hoo boy!! get a life!!!
Fewer than 900 individuals now own one or more AC-Shelby-Ford Cobras built in the 1960's. Perhaps 5-10,000 individuals (?) own a continuation / replica / kit Cobra. The original cars were wonderful, glorious junk! Yes, I really said that, and I have credentials to back up the comment. The continuations / replicas / kits are also wonderful glorious junk, some unsafe at any speed and others faster, better handling, and better braking than the 60's CSX cars. Why can't everyone who likes these cars just enjoy them regardless of who put them together and when!? The market value of the originals is obscene, but some owners drive them on the open road with the same abandon that the owners of the recreations can embrace. This thread needs to be relegated to the scrap heap of juvenile pettiness. Go have fun with your one ton beast with a great thumping V8 in it. Pretend you are driving in the 1964 Targa Florio when you are on your local twisties. Go on a road tour with fellow Cobraphiles and forget this snobby silliness. The work that Ned and others at SAAC have done to document the histories of the 60's cars is wonderful, glorious and definitely not junk. Don't knock it!
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04-14-2014, 08:41 PM
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Quote:
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Fewer than 900 individuals now own one or more AC-Shelby-Ford Cobras built in the 1960's. Perhaps 5-10,000 individuals (?) own a continuation / replica / kit Cobra. The original cars were wonderful, glorious junk! Yes, I really said that, and I have credentials to back up the comment ...
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Ok, I bite - what are your credentials?
2 posts in 7+ years begs the question.
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