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Do you know the monetary and historical difference between a genuiune original Picasso and a reproduction Picasso? Now go enjoy your reproduction cobra. |
My Dad says their a'll f*ckin Fake Plastic **** Buckets.... ....'cept for for that Polski Coke Can.
My Mum says you all need a slap behind the legs and sent your rooms for deliberrately starting a fight and pitching in. |
buddyg, Ralphy, hectorturer ...
Maybe you guys should look at the SAAC registry as a comprehensive "Buyer's Guide" to all things cobra? You have the original Shelby 60's cars = big bucks. Then you have the follow-on production of the 60's cars by the OEM of the 60's cars = expensive. Then you have several 3rd party manufacturers providing various degrees of affordable copies of the 60's cars geared more toward the enthusiast with a limited budget. Seems the price structure with supply & demand certainly follows that model, particularly on resale. The original 60's cars continue to appreciate, the CSX cars depreciate but not so much, the 3rd party entries seem to take the biggest hit on depreciation. I'm sure there are individual cases where this is not so, but on the whole that's how this market works. Hope this helps with your confusion on the subject. |
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Real1, just for fun, next time someone asks me if my car is an original, I'm going to answer "it's a fakeydoo". Should be fun to see their response. Hopefully it won't be a look of total confusion, lol. Cheers.
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FYI, Jay Leno's 427 is not an original, it was built by Mark Garish in WI who built body bucks and hammered out the aluminum body for Jay. |
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when the csx4000 cars came out, they were originally priced under $40K for an un-assembled "kit", which included a lot of high priced parts, like girlings, aluminum dana44 diff, misc suspension parts, fuel cell, radiator, fans, etc. I thought that it wasn't really that bad of a deal for what you were getting, not that you weren't getting a good value for the other replica's, but they were cheaper as well. Basically anytime you replicate anything, the more you keep with originality, generally the higher the cost to replicate, which obviously is one of the reasons most the cobra manufacturer's chose to substitute other parts. now as far as resale value, from what I have seen, the only "replica's" that I have seen consistently sell for more than their original "purchase" price are the csx4000's, especially if you were able to purchase an early one. As the original owner, you will likely take a hit on every other replica out there, including Kirkham's, ERA's, SPF, etc. Ned, you are such a wealth of knowledge, more than many of us put together, and probably one of 10 posters on this site that I really respect, but I differ on your view of csx4000's. First, your description of a replica refers to a single object, such as a work of art, not a group or collection. Being that ford stopped selling the thunderbird for a while, does that mean that when they came out with them again, they were now replica's? Is the new dodge power wagon really a power wagon? or a fakey do? the way I look at it, is that the csx4000 is someone's opportunity to purchase a cobra from the original manufacturer, built exactly like it was 40 years earlier. I wish Chevrolet would build L88's again, ford - boss 429 mustangs again, '57 F-birds as well, mopar '71 hemi cuda's again, all the same as they were originally constructed. Obviously, that will never happen. Dodge is building the hemi challenger again, but how many people would prefer an "original" hemi challenger, as the 2013's are not original, or are they? But, this is the opportunity with the csx4000 cars, if you have this view, and are willing to spend the bucks. Shelby in no way could have sold the cars as completed vehicles, built to 1965 specs. Selling them as kit/component cars was the only way. If you really have the bucks, then maybe get a csx3000 car, but wait, for some of us, a street csx3000 would not be good enough, it would have to have significant racing history. It goes on and on. All the cobra's are great cars, they're all fulfilling someone's dream. If everybody had the same car, same color, same engine, what fun would that be. |
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Fakey Fakey Fakey doo were are you?.. Fakeydoooooo!
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I'm just reading all this @#@#!# while I'm waiting for the GT40/104 come up for auction. still at it I see.
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So Real1 if your continuation (replica) is a real Cobra shouldn't it appreciate in value like the original Cobra of the 60's?
As I said before enjoy your overpriced "fakeydoo" you deserve it! |
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The continuation cars sold by Shelby are replicas of the original cars built in the 60's and exported from AC Cars in England to the states. Push the issue as much as like but you still own a replica of those cars. Larry |
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Obviously, no car manufacturer will ever re-produce, or re-start production , what ever you want to call it, of vehicles that were 40 years old in design for multiple reasons. But, when Winchester started making model 70 rifles again, that were back to the pre-64 design, were they model 70 replica's? or are they new model 70's? Or even better yet, a new model 1873, the gun that won the west. Is it really a genuine Winchester 1873 ? Is it a replica? I still consider it a Winchester 1873. At this point, it doesn't have the collector value of my original 1873 38-40 from 1883, but for the person who wants an genuine Winchester 1873 made today, probably better metallurgy, great. What would a Winchester rep say if you were to ask him if their new 1873 is a real, genuine Winchester 1873. So when colt firearms came out with the series 70 1911 again, is that a replica, or is it really a new series 70? re-start of production? this definitely can back and forth, forever. One thing I can say different between buyers of csx4000's and csx3000's, I bet most buyers of csx4000's buy the cars to have fun, maybe even thinking about good resale value down the road, no pun intended. I wouldn't be surprised if 1/2 of the new owners of csx3000's purchase them with the intention of flipping them, not that there is anything wrong with that. |
I can handle the "apples to oranges" equation. But you lose me on the cars to guns comparison. And I wouldn't call a Shay Model A a replica because too many things have been changed from the original. To me, it would more closely fit the definition of a "replicar."
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