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05-22-2014, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by rodneym
hmmm...there is a long wekend coming up.
Great idea. There are one-offs, Exacts by Roger Bollick, etc that would/should score pretty damn high.
But as far as this "rodneym" business...I just don't trust him 
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Think about it, no one man decides anything, if you say yes I'll post an example on how to tally up "motor points", the other categories could follow that example. Done correctly it could be a very good way to rank replica authenticity, and dare I say, some could out rank a "stock" CSX Continuation lol.
Remember the benchmark is an original 60's Shelby Cobra, and I was thinking the 427 S/C for this exercise.
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05-22-2014, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by AL427SBF
deciding which assembly/components count and their respective point weights ought to be a real hoot 
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I'm sure the CC crowd would have no problem at all agreeing on THAT! 
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05-22-2014, 07:41 PM
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I'm sure the CC crowd would have no problem at all agreeing on THAT! 
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Yeah, like herding cats, that why you need a BOD, bust up the bickering and make a command decision to keep things moving. We probably should elect the BOD, don't want anyone saying later the deck was rigged from the git-go 
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05-23-2014, 01:04 AM
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You guys have convinced me - I no longer have a Cobra Replica - From now on it will be a "Cobra Inspiration", or "Cobra Inspired".
In fact I might go with "Cobra Evoque" or "Cobra Ish", or "Cobra Tipo" - I'm sure that as time pases I might think of other possibilities that wont give too much offence.
Actually I rather like "Cobra Tipo" - think I will badge it accordingly.
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05-23-2014, 06:04 AM
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Let me be the first to throw my hat in the ring!
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05-23-2014, 08:10 AM
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Not so fast grasshopper, I think anyone wanting a seat on the BOD needs to provide a little background on themselves on why they would make a good candidate. After all, you need to be voted in by general consensus. Not a full blown bio but brief summary - 75 words or less. Should Evan entertain the idea, this would pose a problem I think 
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05-23-2014, 08:56 PM
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Oh. I forgot. This is CC. I have to respect the opinion of others regardless of the lack of respect for my opinion and what continuation owners own. Of course please forgive me.
Can anyone ID a continuation Cobra with a Chevy engine? I need the CSX number.
Onyxrider your post make absolutely no sense. I don't own a Cobra? And gee your not even sure its a replica now either. Really?  . Ok. Whatever you say.  I won't even waste any time with that one. All Ill say invest in a Registry. Next.
Itbites: I agree with a lot of what you said. Things have evolved in the last 20 years and SAACs definition cover it.
Al: Where does SAAC define the drive train for an original Cobra? They tell us what they came with originally but you can have an original Cobra with a new engine in it or even a Chevy in it if the owner was nuts enough to put one in and it would still be an original Cobra. It may not have the original or correct motor but its still a Cobra. Moreover, the original Cobras came in as rollers to if I recall with drive train and engine and options installed and could be painted to color and even customized per customer request. Hmmm, sounds erily similar to Continuation Cobras.
What you are losing sight of is that I don't need nor does any current production owner need a point system for accuracy devised by you or anyone else here vis a vis any original. They stand on their own as a genuine Cobra just as would an original with any drive train modification or change. Just another effort to drag the current production Cobras into the "Replica /kit"car pool. Sorry not interested in playing that game nor likely is any other continuation owner.
It's you guys that do not like SAACs definitions So knock yourselves out and create your own definitions that are to your liking. I'll stick with the registry's definition.
thank you very much for the invite though.
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05-23-2014, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by REAL 1
... Where does SAAC define the drive train for an original Cobra? They tell us what they came with originally but you can have an original Cobra with a new engine in it or even a Chevy in it if the owner was nuts enough to put one in and it would still be an original Cobra ...
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I'll defer to those who actually own an "original" to weigh in on this most profound interpretation 
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05-24-2014, 05:43 AM
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Who needs owners of originals to weigh in? Maybe you do but I certainly don't. Who imbued them with a magic aura of knowledge based on mere ownership alone. History gives us what we need to know. The Registry contains the combined knowledge of many who not only own originals but many others who own other related cars and all who have been devoted to thes cars and the history and evolving history for decades. History never stands still. It adds to itself with each passing minute.
The best and most authoritative history book and definitional tool/dictionary is right there for you to use yet many here despite either belonging to SAAC and/or having shelled out the coin for a Registry brush it aside out of (a) sour grapes (b) there own personal opinion differs as to one particular category of definition while happily accepting the part that suit them or (c) they just don't and will never get it.
So have at your new "CC" definitions. A group that defaults back to Charlie ( got the spelling this time) Brown to try and drive home a point counter to one supporting the World Registry will gain a huge following. 
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05-24-2014, 07:04 AM
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Well, have it your way, who am I to undermine this latest spin on things. Be sure to give your local grocer's bag boy with chebbie powered cobra a big hug as you've decided to bury the hatchet
One small step for Evan Almighty, one giant step for chevy powered cobras everywhere.
The SAAC regarding "originals" ...
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Originally Posted by REAL 1
... They tell us what they came with originally but you can have an original Cobra with a new engine in it or even a Chevy in it if the owner was nuts enough to put one in and it would still be an original Cobra. It may not have the original or correct motor but its still a Cobra. Moreover, the original Cobras came in as rollers to if I recall with drive train and engine and options installed and could be painted to color and even customized per customer request. Hmmm, sounds erily similar to Continuation Cobras ...
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05-24-2014, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AL427SBF
Well, have it your way, who am I to undermine this latest spin on things. Be sure to give your local grocer's bag boy with chebbie powered cobra a big hug as you've decided to bury the hatchet
One small step for Evan Almighty, one giant step for chevy powered cobras everywhere.
The SAAC regarding "originals" ...
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Spin?  oh no, not from me. On this site the spin stops with me.
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05-24-2014, 10:02 PM
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Okay, I buy a 60s barn find 427 now without engine and place a Chevy all aluminium 496 in it. Once I have it, I supply the CSX number... Who sells headers for it?
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05-25-2014, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominik
Okay, I buy a 60s barn find 427 now without engine and place a Chevy all aluminium 496 in it. Once I have it, I supply the CSX number... Who sells headers for it?
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Cobra engines 427 or 289 did not have CSX #s to my knowledge. Today's new aluminum block Shelbys do, however. Fabricate headers or put in a chevy 427.
Still waiting for the CSX #s of the Cobras original and current production where the owners had enough of a grudge against Cobras and/or themselves to put a Chevy motor in it. Waiting. 
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05-25-2014, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by REAL 1
Cobra engines 427 or 289 did not have CSX #s to my knowledge. Today's new aluminum block Shelbys do, however. Fabricate headers or put in a chevy 427.
Still waiting for the CSX #s of the Cobras original and current production where the owners had enough of a grudge against Cobras and/or themselves to put a Chevy motor in it. Waiting. 
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That would be the ones in the registry: "Unknown", or similar ;-)
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05-24-2014, 11:34 AM
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Long live the Chevy in a Cobra(HotRod shaped like a Cobra)
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05-24-2014, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor maine
Long live the Chevy in a Cobra(HotRod shaped like a Cobra)
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Has anyone installed a Caddy CTS-V supercharged engine in a hot rod shaped like a Cobra?
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05-24-2014, 03:21 PM
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Has anyone installed a Caddy CTS-V supercharged engine in a hot rod shaped like a Cobra?
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Super Cool
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05-25-2014, 06:30 AM
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Has anyone installed a Caddy CTS-V supercharged engine in a hot rod shaped like a Cobra?
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Look in the Aussie section. Most of their cars have LS engines in them.
For what one of those engines run, you could build/buy one heck of a killer LS engine with more HP. Add turbos and you can easily get over 1000 hp.
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05-29-2014, 06:21 AM
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Has anyone installed a Caddy CTS-V supercharged engine in a hot rod shaped like a Cobra?
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Not the 560hp CTS-V motor, but I have a brand new 585hp LSA as used in the Camaro ZL1 that I'm going to fitting to my Cobra.
I couldn't give a stuff that it doesn't have a Ford motor in it!
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05-28-2014, 10:31 PM
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So I am looking at ""Cobras & Replicas 1962-1993" a Brooklands Books publication. In it is a two page picture of a car called the "Mongoose". A car built by Jerry Scheberies which is a 1958 AC ACE with a F85 Olds V8 transplanted in it. It looks like it was done before Carroll Shelby and the Cobra. So my question is this the true father of the Cobra , with a GM engine and not Shelby and Ford???
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