Chevy in a Cobra

[Dirkdaddy]

This is a thread I sort of expected on this type of forum (I'm new). I have bee non C2 Corvette sites where some of the faithful get very particular about authenticity and they strong opinions on what mods if any are tolerated...

Regarding how far should a replica be able to go and call itself a Cobra.. IMHO it should be built along the lines of the originals, the same basic shape of the body and having a loud, powerful v8 engine, RWD, and be a raw basic sports car stripped to bare essentials, not loaded with stereo equipment and creature comforts, ABS Traction and Stability control (although it could be argued this would be a good idea in this car). If you are putting the body over a corvette chassis, or using a honda 4 cylinder, I would think it would be better suited to another name for the car, but you can't force people. These are supposed to be modified cars for extreme performance. If someone wants to put a BMW M3 engine and suspension in one to go faster, I'd cheer them on but also they are going to take questions about "where's the Ford engine" from everyone.

If you think they all should be Shelby produced with Ford, well that's fine but don't be such a d*ck about what others want.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by Dirkdaddy

This is a thread I sort of expected on this type of forum (I'm new). I have bee non C2 Corvette sites where some of the faithful get very particular about authenticity and they strong opinions on what mods if any are tolerated...

Regarding how far should a replica be able to go and call itself a Cobra.. IMHO it should be built along the lines of the originals, the same basic shape of the body and having a loud, powerful v8 engine, RWD, and be a raw basic sports car stripped to bare essentials, not loaded with stereo equipment and creature comforts, ABS Traction and Stability control (although it could be argued this would be a good idea in this car). If you are putting the body over a corvette chassis, or using a honda 4 cylinder, I would think it would be better suited to another name for the car, but you can't force people. These are supposed to be modified cars for extreme performance. If someone wants to put a BMW M3 engine and suspension in one to go faster, I'd cheer them on but also they are going to take questions about "where's the Ford engine" from everyone.

If you think they all should be Shelby produced with Ford, well that's fine but don't be such a d*ck about what others want.

Bingo! From the keyboard of babes, from a newbie, a neophyte, novice or what ever else you want to refer to this guy as he nailed it. Maybe it's the fact you need a fresh new outlook untainted with BS to this point I don't know. This is exactly what I have been saying from many posts back.

Case in point. Look at post #16. Is that Cobra replica? Geez, it has a body that approximates the Cobra shape. Clearly has nothing in common with a Cobra, 0, nadda, zippo beyond the body shape. My vote is it is not. Where do you draw the line? Agreed it is hard to define and like there will never be a consensus but at some point isn't there a limit? Crikey.


Whats this "kit" vs. "replica" stuff? A replica can be kit and a kit can be replica. You guys are trying to make a distinction where none exists. ERAs are kits, FFR are kits. They are also replicas if you at least use some "Cobra ingredients". A gauge set, gauge pattern. Shifter knob, spinner, Trigo, correct overflow tank, peddles etc...Doesn't have to be all of it just at least something. Make some effort to have some ingredient from the original receipe. Put a Lexus chassis and drive train under an ERA shell and thats where I have an issue calling it a replica as that term is now commonly understood.

Very simple the term replica is now commonly understood to mean a car which looks and copies a Cobra but is not a Cobra. The farther away you get from what a Cobra is inside and out the farther away you are from having a replica of a Cobra. Period.

Again, as to Chevy power. I have no issue with a "personal choice" to put Chevy power in a Cobra replica for personal reasons but don't start telling everyone it's the "engine CS wanted first or it's better a better choice than SBF or BBF for a Cobra replica" cause that were the chit hits the fan with me, the facts, history and reality.

Dimis: Look they have butchered original Cobras into hotrods and for Hollywood in the past I suppose the current production Cobras are always exposed to such tragic endings too. Sad really.

[blykins]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Whats this "kit" vs. "replica" stuff? A replica can be kit and a kit can be replica. You guys are trying to make a distinction where none exists. ERAs are kits, FFR are kits. They are also replicas if you at least use some "Cobra ingredients". A gauge set, gauge pattern. Shifter knob, spinner, Trigo, correct overflow tank, peddles etc...Doesn't have to be all of it just at least something. Make some effort to have some ingredient from the original receipe. Put a Lexus chassis and drive train under an ERA shell and thats where I have an issue calling it a replica as that term is now commonly understood.

Very simple the term replica is now commonly understood to mean a car which looks and copies a Cobra but is not a Cobra. The farther away you get from what a Cobra is inside and out the farther away you are from having a replica of a Cobra. Period.

My idea of a kit car is to make a Fiero a Ferrari, make a VW a Porsche 356, etc. Most of these "kits" are designed to use whatever parts the builder has in his arsenal, or whatever his imagination leads him to use.

I have ever-so-slowly been turning myself away from the Cobra. It doesn't matter what word you use to "punctuate" your statement you just made, unless it's a CSX car from the 60's, you have a replica....and to 99% of the general population out there, it's a "kit-car". Exclamation point.

I will agree that some of your higher quality manufacturers can get as close as possible to the look/feel/functionality of an original, but it's still a replica.

I'm glad I just build engines.

[AL427SBF]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

... Chevy power. I have no issue with a "personal choice" to put Chevy power in a Cobra replica for personal reasons but don't start telling everyone it's the "engine CS wanted first ...

https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motora...191632837.html

When Ford Met Shelby: The story of the Shelby Cobra

Let the education continue ...