Were Original Cobras Considered Kit Cars Way Back When?

[NewYorkGuy]

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

But in this case, OR, was asking a legitimate question and the usual self appointed Cobra gatekeepers of this forum slam the thread and turn it personal.

Real discussions will turn to sheet if fiction dominates fact because the fiction guys have invested too much $$$ and time into a hobby with the wrong hot rods from the get go.

Have fun, appreciate and respect. It's just a hobby. The Aussie guys in this forum seem to get it.

Carry on.

nyg

[AL427SBF]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

...Real discussions will turn to sheet if fiction dominates fact because the fiction guys have invested too much $$$ and time into a hobby with the wrong hot rods from the get go ...

Speaking of fiction, how is the paypal account doing when ya whip 'em online with that logitech G27 race wheel
OnyxRider, is nyg your brother?
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[Jamo]

Originally Posted by AL427SBF

Speaking of fiction, how is the paypal account doing when ya whip 'em online with that logitech G27 race wheel
OnyxRider, is nyg your brother?
.

Here's a damn good example. If you have nothing to add to the discussion, kindly STFU.

It's a rather simple concept.

I'm going to start taking particular folks out instead of just closing threads.

[AL427SBF]

Originally Posted by Jamo

Here's a damn good example. If you have nothing to add to the discussion, kindly STFU.

It's a rather simple concept.

I'm going to start taking particular folks out instead of just closing threads.

I will straighten up and fly right

[Mark IV]

Most original owners tell the story of having someone walk up to their 289 in 1965 and ask "Is it real????"

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

But in this case, OR, was asking a legitimate question and the usual self appointed Cobra gatekeepers of this forum slam the thread and turn it personal.

Real discussions will turn to sheet if fiction dominates fact because the fiction guys have invested too much $$$ and time into a hobby with the wrong hot rods from the get go.

Have fun, appreciate and respect. It's just a hobby. The Aussie guys in this forum seem to get it.

Carry on.

nyg

First, the Aussie guys get IT, because they're filled with Foster's and rarely sober.

Second, Facts? What facts are quoted on any site on the Internets? Everyone just gives their opinions. Facts? No facts.

Third, buy a Registry. Or Trevor Legate's book. Read something and stop playing video games. Less opinions, more facts. Less filling, tastes great.

Fourth, Onyx doesn't even read his own posts.

[AL427SBF]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

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Fourth, Onyx doesn't even read his own posts.

I'll take that bet, he reads 'em over and over and over. You ever see the name dropping by onyx - people, places, cars, events? The World's Most Interesting Man doesn't hold a candle to this guy ... traveling the world over on our behalf, no doubt in a salesman's cheap searsucker suit, we should feel blessed

[Nedsel]

Guess you'd have to go back and figure out if Allards, Facel-Vegas, Jensens, Sunbeam Tigers, Monteverdes, TVRs, and the like were considered "kit-cars." Quick answer - NO, they were not. A European car using an American V8 did not connote anything beyond a manufacturer choosing to source a power plant outside of what the manufacturer could supply internally.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by Nedsel

Guess you'd have to go back and figure out if Allards, Facel-Vegas, Jensens, Sunbeam Tigers, Monteverdes, TVRs, and the like were considered "kit-cars." Quick answer - NO, they were not. A European car using an American V8 did not connote anything beyond a manufacturer choosing to source a power plant outside of what the manufacturer could supply internally.

Hmmm, not so fast Ned. Difference is the companies you mention manufactured their chassis and bodies. No?

Shelby did not manufacture any part of the Cobra. He assembled components purchased from others and shipped completed units to Ford dealers. Kit? Debatable.

[Nedsel]

BS. It's not debatable, unless you have a hidden agenda in your back pocket. Oh, I forgot - you do! According to your logic, my '66 AC 289 would not be a kit car, because it was manufactured by the same company that built the chassis and body, while any Shelby Cobra would somehow fail your litmus test. What you forget is that, like Jamo suggested earlier, there were lots of factory "specials" back then. And if a company like Shelby American wanted to buy an existing automobile, such as the AC Ace, and make modifications - including a larger engine - they did so. This usually involved renaming the resulting creation. By your (il-)logic, given the fact that Shelby American did not manufacture the Mustang, I guess you would argue that the Shelby GT-350/ GT 500 is also a kit-car.

[NewYorkGuy]

yep, some people turn this forum into personal attacks.

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

yep, some people turn this forum into personal attacks.

...and some folks ought to take a break.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

yep, some people turn this forum into personal attacks.

Right again.just wait until the worlds largest " non biased" Cobra site picks up steam.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

But in this case, OR, was asking a legitimate question and the usual self appointed Cobra gatekeepers of this forum slam the thread and turn it personal.

Real discussions will turn to sheet if fiction dominates fact because the fiction guys have invested too much $$$ and time into a hobby with the wrong hot rods from the get go.

Have fun, appreciate and respect. It's just a hobby. The Aussie guys in this forum seem to get it.

Carry on.

nyg

Bam! Ding ding ding. We have a winner! This guy is good!