The magnesium elephant in the room

[1985 CCX]

I bought a set.............

Hard to do but worth every penny................

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by 1985 CCX

I bought a set.............

Hard to do but worth every penny................

Did you buy a set of Halibrands or a set of Kress wheels?

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by rodneym

Great! I hope Frans sells all of them and more. But some of the 'put up or shut up' comments are unfounded.

Uhhh, maybe if you paid to have Fran's wheels sent to Utah for a test fit, then everyone would feel better about themselves.... Round trip postage, of course.

[rodneym]

Naw.
The offer is: If I'm to pay for postage, I'd be happy to accept and test the wheels at casa de Rodney.
Returned, of course.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by rodneym

Naw.
The offer is: If I'm to pay for postage, I'd be happy to accept and test the wheels as casa de Rodney.
Returned, of course.

You know, that's a damn fair offer. If I were Fran, I'd take you up on it. Am I right that all you need to do is put them on the hub, tighten down the spinner, and then spin them with the car up in the air to see if they clear? No need to mount tires and ride, right?

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

You know, that's a damn fair offer. If I were Fran, I'd take you up on it. Am I right that all you need to do is put them on the hub, tighten down the spinner, and then spin them with the car up in the air to see if they clear? No need to mount tires and ride, right?

I think you would need to mount tires and road test them. As I mentioned before, the fit back there is VERY tight, especially with the emergency brake setup, IIRC.

[rodneym]

Originally Posted by patrickt

You know, that's a damn fair offer. If I were Fran, I'd take you up on it. Am I right that all you need to do is put them on the hub, tighten down the spinner, and then spin them with the car up in the air to see if they clear? No need to mount tires and ride, right?

Yup, Yup.

[RodKnock]

I can't remember the person's name, but I spoke via telephone with someone at M&A Casting a couple times. We were hatching a plan to create new molds for $10,000 and then new wheels at a cost roughly about $800-$900 per wheel. M&A Casting wanted a minimum production run of 15-20 sets of wheels. Total cost of $75,000 +/-, but I had two fears. One, I didn't want to go into the wheel business, because I know I would lose money. And two, I thought my house would be filled to the ceiling with boxes everywhere.

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

And two, I thought my house would be filled to the ceiling with boxes everywhere.

Thus the deposit requirement, eliminates the "yes I want a set" guy who then says when they are ready "but, gee I don't have the money/car/desire, etc."

And yes, Fran does now use email but that is a VERY recent development.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Mark IV

Thus the deposit requirement, eliminates the "yes I want a set" guy who then says when they are ready "but, gee I don't have the money/car/desire, etc.

Duh, what's your point? Fran wanted deposits. Fran was going to pay for the wheels to be produced. Whether he got the money from the account with the deposit money (or not) is moot. Once he had X amount of deposits, he would then proceed.

Originally Posted by Mark IV

And yes, Fran does now use email but that is a VERY recent development.

Well, that's weird. My first email exchange with him was November 19, 2010. And there are "too many to count" emails from him over the last 4 years.

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Duh, what's your point? Fran wanted deposits. Fran was going to pay for the wheels to be produced. Whether he got the money from the account with the deposit money (or not) is moot. Once he had X amount of deposits, he would then proceed.




Well, that's weird. My first email exchange with him was November 19, 2010. And there are "too many to count" emails from him over the last 4 years.

While you received an email from "Kresscobra" it was NOT sent by Fran but rather by proxy. I have in fact replied to emails for him in the past. All of the current posts on ClubCobra and GT40s.com have been posted on his behalf and NOT by Fran.

And taking deposits is NOT "indisputable proof" that he was financing the production run with deposits. If the run was $75K and he only had 10K in deposits but made the wheels, how is that "financing" the run?

I dispute your "troll" tag. I had previously posted a thread on these wheels on Fran's behalf and watched that thread go sideways. I have only replied to correct or present Fran's position.

Fran just called me and asked if he should have me reply to the comments here. I suggested he not do so and deal with genuinely interested parties via phone. Oh, BTW he has a Kirkham in the basement of his shop so the "will they fit" question will be resolved. Again I suggest those Kirkham owners who are interested contact Fran directly, not via a forum.

Kirk out...........

[rodneym]

Originally Posted by Mark IV

While you received an email from "Kresscobra" it was NOT sent by Fran but rather by proxy. I have in fact replied to emails for him in the past. All of the current posts on ClubCobra and GT40s.com have been posted on his behalf and NOT by Fran.

And taking deposits is NOT "indisputable proof" that he was financing the production run with deposits. If the run was $75K and he only had 10K in deposits but made the wheels, how is that "financing" the run?

I dispute your "troll" tag. I had previously posted a thread on these wheels on Fran's behalf and watched that thread go sideways. I have only replied to correct or present Fran's position.

Fran just called me and asked if he should have me reply to the comments here. I suggested he not do so and deal with genuinely interested parties via phone. Oh, BTW he has a Kirkham in the basement of his shop so the "will they fit" question will be resolved. Again I suggest those Kirkham owners who are interested contact Fran directly, not via a forum.

Kirk out...........

Well, there you have it.
Now all patrickt needs to do is buy a Kirkham. Then the mags.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Mark IV

While you received an email from "Kresscobra" it was NOT sent by Fran but rather by proxy. I have in fact replied to emails for him in the past. All of the current posts on ClubCobra and GT40s.com have been posted on his behalf and NOT by Fran.

And taking deposits is NOT "indisputable proof" that he was financing the production run with deposits. If the run was $75K and he only had 10K in deposits but made the wheels, how is that "financing" the run?

I dispute your "troll" tag. I had previously posted a thread on these wheels on Fran's behalf and watched that thread go sideways. I have only replied to correct or present Fran's position.

Fran just called me and asked if he should have me reply to the comments here. I suggested he not do so and deal with genuinely interested parties via phone. Oh, BTW he has a Kirkham in the basement of his shop so the "will they fit" question will be resolved. Again I suggest those Kirkham owners who are interested contact Fran directly, not via a forum.

Kirk out...........

If not a troll, then quote me accurately. Don't pick and choose someone's words. Don't modify my words to create hostility or start an argument. That's the definition of trolling.

As for financing the run, I explained that above. Read it again at your leisure. One, I never said the word "finance" and two, Fran didn't produce a wheel in the last 4 years. Correct? Why? Because he never received a deposit. Correct? What bank account he draws money from or whether he could do it without deposits is/was moot. No wheels were produced, because no deposits were received. That may have changed now, but I don't know that for sure yet.

Have you thought that these mag wheel threads are fine w/o you? IMO, the previous threads go sideways because of you. I call that trolling.

I know Fran has personally responded to my emails in the past, because we've talked immediately after we've exchanged emails.

Please stop trolling this thread. It's fine w/o you.

[Dimis]

If I had the coin... I'd probably roll the dice and buy a set irrespective of them not being hallibrand badged. I'll wait for those lotto numbers of mine to come up.

In the mean time Fran would do well to speak with Kirkham and the shelby boys about adding it as an option to their spec sheets.

Just sayin'

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Dimis

If I had the coin... I'd probably roll the dice and buy a set irrespective of them not being hallibrand badged. I'll wait for those lotto numbers of mine to come up.

Alternatively, you may want to go on a run and see if you spot anything in the bushes at the local park. You never know what you may find.

[rodneym]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Alternatively, you may want to go on a run and see if you spot anything in the bushes at the local park. You never know what you may find.

What the hell is that 'bushes find' story, anyways???!!!

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by rodneym

What the hell is that 'bushes find' story, anyways???!!!

It's a classic tale of discovery and cardio work all wrapped into one.

In the park I found...

[rodneym]

I really don't have a dog in this hunt anymore.
Since the original thread ended, I've purchased Trigos, Halis and Vintage Golds. LOL.
I'd be happy to see if Fran's fit Kirkhams' billet pieces. Actually, a good inside diameter at a couple depths would more than likely do the trick. I do know that the Halis are VERY different from the Trigos/Vintages.
I wish Fran well and hope he sells all of 'em. If we could turn back the clock I'd take a set.
And I hope those of 'us' that buy, post and tell all. They look good to me.

[rodneym]

fordracing65 - that's a desperate attempt at a 'Happy Birthday'. So, Happy Birthday
Pat - maybe a different shade? I've seen Trigos that look dark grey and others blue-ish. Not a huge difference to be honest.
Now Bob's Gold/GYBB combo from Vintage? THAT'S a good lookin wheel combo!

[patrickt]

This is what my Trigos looked like before the upgrade...