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Old 01-12-2015, 02:43 PM
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It looks like the complete front section of the body on the left is really made from 4-5 different panels only.

Having some basic experience in metal shaping I still wonder how he does it...

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You may want to clue them in on one little issue. Their show car from this weekend is in fact a MKII, not a MKIII. You may or may not have concern when they aren't familiar enough with the car to understand which series chassis they are working with.
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You may want to clue them in on one little issue. Their show car from this weekend is in fact a MKII, not a MKIII. You may or may not have concern when they aren't familiar enough with the car to understand which series chassis they are working with.
Excuse me SIR, I have a MKIII and what I have seen was a MKIII as well. This confirms that you don't know what you are talking about. Are you one of those "Trolls" inhibiting FFR users like me buying those aluminum kits?
But a "Troll" doesn't lie....cameras do.
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Excuse me SIR, I have a MKIII and what I have seen was a MKIII as well. This confirms that you don't know what you are talking about. Are you one of those "Trolls" inhibiting FFR users like me buying those aluminum kits?
But a "Troll" doesn't lie....cameras do.
Now why would you want to go and say something like that? If you think I may be wrong, a polite thing to do would be to ask my why I think it's a MKII.

Firstly, as per your own posts, you have limited knowledge of the differences between the different factory five chassis and the resulting potential for parts interchangeability issues. As a guy named Messer, I'm thinking that I'm seeing aggressiveness common to people of a certain region I know.

For now, I'll ignore your insult and pretend you were just asking. Here is a picture of the car in question at the show today.


That sir is a MKII driver foot box and steering assembly. Here is another shot from the show. Take note of the steering rack location. I'm sure you see the issue. I won't say due to not knowing what I'm talking about.



Here is a picture of the a car from alloycars web site. The bar on the outside of the driver's foot box is different on a MKIII.

The pictures I have posted are examples of why there are credibility issues with some of the claims being made by alloycars and now you. So now that I have nicely substantiated my claim that the car at the show today is in fact a MKII, how about you go and take a picture of your MKIII that you claim to own and show me that I'm wrong.

EDIT: I also want to point out the same air cleaner, expansion tank, and plug wires on the motor for show pics and the alloycars pic.
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Now why would you want to go and say something like that? If you think I may be wrong, a polite thing to do would be to ask my why I think it's a MKII.
Yes Sir, I understand. But what all of this has to do with my car?

My car=MKIII NEW Body=MKIV.

But I appreciate your advise.
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Mr Nobody, Thanks for your post on this. The price seems very good considering many will pay $10k for a paint job. If the price includes a finished body with no other costs congrats. In the pic above, make sure they fix the wipers as they should not come out under the windshield molding. Also wondering what side vents they are using, as you may know the FFR opening needs tweaking. What brake lights do you have and how do they address the pads for the lights? Did they advise what frame changes are needed to mount the body? Do they custom make the body to your chassis as you may know the side pipe openings vary by set up. Like mentioned before, what trunk hinges do you have and how much to convert to hidden? Will they change out the perky butt and will they do a drop mod for you if not done already? Do they copy the FFR rear wheel openings or do they close them up a bit? Can they offer flared fenders for wider tires? Do they make the body symmetrical or copy the FFR layout?

Sorry for all the questions, but you would have asked these if you were going to take this big step. I have an MK3 and would be interested in buying your finished body if in good shape. Please send pics and a price. Thanks.

Can't wait to see the finished product. I would be interested as well once I get a clear understanding of what it is they are doing. I am asking you as a real customer as it would be an honest opinion in lieu of a sales response.

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Can I ask what was so difficult to understand about the facts posted in the original thread (CLICK HERE).

The Kirkham Cobra they used in their advertising?
The Factory Five Cobra they used in their advertising?
Or the FFR Mk II (that is not a MK III chassis) and Kirkham supplied aluminum body that was originally built by Bluemoon Motorsports in Florida and Alloycars is now showing as if they built it themselves, when all they did was add their own hood and scoop to the Kirkham body?

Again, what was so difficult for you to understand?

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I have been looking for a while now for an aluminum body for my FFR-MKIII. I went to a car show this weekend in West Palm Beach and between Ferraris, Lamborghini and Backdraft I found Alloycars with two aluminum cars which were on display at their booth.

I met two of the builders and the owner and what I have seen was astonishing. I noticed that they are using the same chassis as my Cobra which surprised me a lot. So I asked the owner if it is possible to swap my fiberglass body for their aluminum body. And his answer was "This is what we are here for".
After some small talk he invited me to visit their shop in Fort Lauderdale. I went home happy, knowing to be able to see their shop in the morning as it was not far from my home.
At home I googled Alloycars and this forum popped up with a lot of posts regarding the existence of this company. So I asked myself if those cars are fake and the company doesnt exist, who did I meet at the show?

And Man, you all are so wrong on here.

As soon I showed up at the shop it was just jaw dropping. The first building full of 550 Spyders in different building stages, the second building which was double the size as the first one and fully loaded with aluminum Cobra bodies and parts. I was just speachless.
No word can express what I have seen.

The owner explained to me they are awaiting a new shippent from Factory Five to get MKIV's which will be sold from the next month up but as I have a MKIII already I was only looking for a body. After we made an agreement with a price for my swap I will go forward for getting my dream aluminum body.

It is a shame that most of you forum members are talking bad about something you have never seen. Which is also taking out the opportunity for FFR owners like me to replace their fiberglass bodies.

I don't understand the comments about false photos and that those car are not theirs as I have seen them in person and good minded people do the same before they post inflammatory information on this forum.

In my opinion this Cobra forum should be objective and not so inflammatory. I don't see much posts for my own interest as I had to figure it out for myself, therefore this will be my first and last post here. [ATTACH]Attachment 24970[/ATTACH]
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OK, here's an obvious question.

Mr. Nobody, do you have any affiliation with the owners, suppliers, subcontractors and/or employees of Alloycars?
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Old 01-12-2015, 03:03 PM
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Mr. Nobody, do you have any affiliation with the owners, suppliers, subcontractors and/or employees of Alloycars?
You haven't answered my question. Do you have any affiliation with the owners, suppliers, subcontractors and/or employees of Alloycars?
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You haven't answered my question. Do you have any affiliation with the owners, suppliers, subcontractors and/or employees of Alloycars?
Yes, I have. Sorry. I just became a customer.
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Yes, I have. Sorry. I just became a customer.
Hang in there and good luck with the aluminum body - would like to see pictures when it's done. In the meantime I wouldn't blame you for going into the witness protection program and hide out from this forum. You can see that the pitchforks and torches are still out here. After all, the contract is between just you and Alloycars.
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Hang in there and good luck with the aluminum body - would like to see pictures when it's done. In the meantime I wouldn't blame you for going into the witness protection program and hide out from this forum. You can see that the pitchforks and torches are still out here. After all, the contract is between just you and Alloycars.
You are right. Its between me and Alloycars. Will be glad to post my pictures in the future.
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OK, here's an obvious question.

Mr. Nobody, do you have any affiliation with the owners, suppliers, subcontractors and/or employees of Alloycars?
I see that you at least assuming their existence. The answer is NO.
But after what I have seen I will help FFR owners like me to get what they want. And if they are scammers, why are they accepting my payment after the body is done???
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I see that you at least assuming their existence. The answer is NO.
But after what I have seen I will help FFR owners like me to get what they want. And if they are scammers, why are they accepting my payment after the body is done???
I never stated that they didn't exist. And you reading comprehension skills have me concerned. I said that they used photos of other Cobras that are not theirs to sell their product.

Are you active on the FFR forum? I'd personally make sure that I wouldn't give them payment until thebody is either picked up or delivered.

What was the cost for the aluminum body?
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I never stated that they didn't exist. And you reading comprehension skills have me concerned. I said that they used photos of other Cobras that are not theirs to sell their product.

Are you active on the FFR forum? I'd personally make sure that I wouldn't give them payment until thebody is either picked up or delivered.

What was the cost for the aluminum body?
Actually I never posted anything. I bought my MKIII eight years ago and I am not a Cobra specialist, just enjoying it. I dont know whats about pricing for your car. You should call them.

Payment: After conclusion. At least in my case.

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Actually I never posted anything. I bought my MKIII eight years ago and I am not a Cobra specialist, just enjoying it. I dont know whats about pricing for your car. You should call them.
Hmmm. I also had to explain that I own a Kirkham (aluminum body) to the person who posted for Alloycars. I guess the polished aluminum body is difficult to notice in the picture by my CC name "RodKnock."

OK, I'll try again. How much is an aluminum body for an FFR?
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Cool! So that must be car #151, right?
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Still waiting to hear from Mr Smith. Just sayin'....

I hope all works out and this is a great success. Many folks would be happy with an alloy FFR. They are a great company.
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Still waiting to hear from Mr Smith. Just sayin'....

I hope all works out and this is a great success. Many folks would be happy with an alloy FFR. They are a great company.
Yes, I love my car and it will be my pride and joy with an aluminum body. I will post pictures while in progress. I am thinking to take their offer to switch to a MKIV chassis as I can use all my accessories. I have to gather more information to see if suspension, brake and steering parts are compatible.
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