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02-12-2015, 04:04 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Memphis,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance SP02423 KCR 445W 611hp 599ft lbs
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Detroit Bill, you and I definitely have similar goals for our cars and tires. Should I want to do a 1st and 2nd gear spirited run I want the car to hook. I want to experience what my car and engine has to offer. I like the 15" period correct look and if the Avon tires aren't giving up much in the straight line compared to a 17" wheel that is good to know. Yet, the larger diameter wheels with the massive tires are growing on me. For me, if I choose to go 17's or 18's I would get a painted or cast center and then paint them satin black with the plasti-dip. I do not want to powder coat the rims black should I ever want the other look. To me the black wheels sorta make the short sidewall not as noticeable. The problem with the larger 275 tires on front are several owners experience the tire rubbing the frame full lock. I do not like or want that. IMHO The SPF does not have a tight turning radius unless you blip the throttle and sling the rearend. If I did go with a taller rim, I would more than likely use a 8" wide rim up front with a 245, 255 tire. I would appreciate pics of that wheel combination. Also, I have not checked with Roger Kraus for as shipped to my door cost for the Avons but I'm sure it will be half the cost or more than the new larger wheels and tires. Something for me to consider....
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02-12-2015, 04:05 PM
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Location: San Jose,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #1436 514
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Detroit Bill
Scott how did the older PS hold the power when they were newer?
I am between Nitto NT05
255/40/17
315/35/17
And Pilot Sport 2.
275/40/17
335/35/17
The PS2 are twice as much and one of my concerns is that they will age out before they wear out. I don't mind spending the money I want the best straight line acceleration and handling that I can get.
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They will age out before wearing out. I have had these Pilots on my car since 2006. I drive my car, so I want to make sure I have the best wether I am going 50mph or 125mph. They did fairly well new, but as time has gone on,they break loose easy. I have had comments about my wheels not looking original, but I don't give a sh!t because the car isn't original!!
So the way I look at it, I have had these tires for about 9 years and put about 25,000 plus miles on them. Only the right rear wore bad down to the wear bars. I will pull them off, put the fronts on Craigs list and sell them for $200.
When I bought the car it had 315/45/17 F1 Supercar Goodyears on it. I had two sets. The rear tires I got about 5,000 miles out of each set. The 335 are 12.5" wide compared to around 11.2" with the 315's. At some point once all the 335/35/17 are gone, I would prefer to get 18" wheels for the rear.
BTW, I like the look of the Cobra photo's you posted.
Scott
Last edited by scootter; 02-12-2015 at 04:09 PM..
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02-12-2015, 05:43 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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Detroit Bill, you and I definitely have similar goals for our cars and tires. Should I want to do a 1st and 2nd gear spirited run I want the car to hook. I want to experience what my car and engine has to offer. I like the 15" period correct look and if the Avon tires aren't giving up much in the straight line compared to a 17" wheel that is good to know. Yet, the larger diameter wheels with the massive tires are growing on me. For me, if I choose to go 17's or 18's I would get a painted or cast center and then paint them satin black with the plasti-dip. I do not want to powder coat the rims black should I ever want the other look. To me the black wheels sorta make the short sidewall not as noticeable. The problem with the larger 275 tires on front are several owners experience the tire rubbing the frame full lock. I do not like or want that. IMHO The SPF does not have a tight turning radius unless you blip the throttle and sling the rearend. If I did go with a taller rim, I would more than likely use a 8" wide rim up front with a 245, 255 tire. I would appreciate pics of that wheel combination. Also, I have not checked with Roger Kraus for as shipped to my door cost for the Avons but I'm sure it will be half the cost or more than the new larger wheels and tires. Something for me to consider....
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02-13-2015, 02:38 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance, Survival Motorsports aluminum FE 482
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Avons
Have you Avon users done something to the inner fender wells to prevent damage to the fiberglass/aluminum from stones being thrown up?
If so what?
Thanks
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Last edited by Detroit Bill; 02-13-2015 at 03:51 AM..
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02-13-2015, 07:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Detroit Bill
Have you Avon users done something to the inner fender wells to prevent damage to the fiberglass/aluminum from stones being thrown up?
If so what?
Thanks
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That's not damage, those are battle scars - wear them proudly.
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02-13-2015, 07:23 AM
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I have heard a rock hits the back of the glass and puts a "star" in the paint.
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02-13-2015, 07:30 AM
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If it's inside wheel wells or on the back side of a painted surface, perhaps: a) Plasti Dip; b) undercoating; or c) truck bed liner. Plasti Dip is the thinnest, available in multiple colours (including clear) and it can be peeled off if you decide you don't like it. Undercoating and truck bed liner are much thicker, heavier and I think pretty much permanent once they've dried or set.
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02-13-2015, 09:06 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Wheelwell Foam.
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02-13-2015, 09:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Detroit Bill
I have heard a rock hits the back of the glass and puts a "star" in the paint.
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Star cracks on painted fiberglass a very real possibility. Ask me how I know...but I only got one. After the first one I took 1061 to the local Linex shop. I pulled the car into their bay, put it on jackstands and pulled the wheels. They masked the wheel wells and shot the inside of the wells with their liner. I do not know if this is the best, cheapest, most expensive, lightest, heaviest, or whatever solution. I do know that it works....and it's been almost 10 years ago so I have no idea what I paid for the work.
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02-13-2015, 10:54 AM
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Please don't mistake Avons with Good Year Billboards.
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02-13-2015, 11:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Pete
Please don't mistake Avons with Good Year Billboards.
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Please explain
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02-13-2015, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Detroit Bill
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The Billboards come with "Run Flat" technology and Avons don't.
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02-13-2015, 11:26 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
The Billboards come with "Run Flat" technology and Avons don't.
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Yeah, I know all about dat!
The Billboards throw lots of sh_t. When they're warmed up, sometimes it sounds like popcorn cooking! As said above, they will provide a nice "patina" to the car over time.
Mounting my new Avons tomorrow and I figure I will get the same or more from them.
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02-13-2015, 11:48 AM
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I got a ride in a McCluskey coupe at "their" airstrip.
All ally of course, and I don't know if it had foam or not.
It sounded like you had a pot over your head and you were being pelted with sand and pebbles.
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02-13-2015, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by rodneym
It sounded like you had a pot over your head and you were being pelted with sand and pebbles.
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So, just a typical day walking around town for ya then.
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02-13-2015, 01:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Detroit Bill
I have heard a rock hits the back of the glass and puts a "star" in the paint.
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Bill - Not only will you get a gold star but you'll spray the rear fender well if you use track/drag tires. Tell Todd you want 335-30-18's and call it a day.Your car will look like it's been mini-tubbed. You should contact Craig Aylsworth with your spf questions. He knows them inside and out and he's pulling 800 horsepower!
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02-13-2015, 01:58 PM
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I have been thinking about the Avons, but at nearly $2k for four I am struggling to see their worth. Are they really that good?
Phil
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02-13-2015, 02:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Large Arbor
I have been thinking about the Avons, but at nearly $2k for four I am struggling to see their worth. Are they really that good?
Phil
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Yes .
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02-13-2015, 05:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Large Arbor
I have been thinking about the Avons, but at nearly $2k for four I am struggling to see their worth. Are they really that good?
Phil
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To expand on "yes" - I cannot think of any other place one could spend $2000 on their car and get a greater performance increase.
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