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Old 04-18-2015, 12:00 PM
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Has it been proven that there was a 500K direct to consumer sale? So far it is only asserted.
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Old 04-19-2015, 04:13 PM
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To me it's shady.

Anyone who rebadges something and tries to pass it off as something different, then inflates the price and then fails to disclose the fact is, in my book is shady.
If they said here's a Kirkham that you can have for $100k or if you prefer we'd be happy to sell you a rebadged version for $1/2mill then that's different.

Hang on... Perhaps it's best a fool and their money are easily parted...
I think I just refuted my own argument.

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Old 04-19-2015, 04:19 PM
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To me it's shady.
... like the Cobra replica biz is anything but.
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Old 04-19-2015, 08:32 PM
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To me it's shady.

Anyone who rebadges something and tries to pass it off as something different, then inflates the price and then fails to disclose the fact is, in my book is shady.
If they said here's a Kirkham that you can have for $100k or if you prefer we'd be happy to sell you a rebadged version for $1/2mill then that's different.

Hang on... Perhaps it's best a fool and their money are easily parted...
I think I just refuted my own argument.

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We've been down this road many times. Very few manufacturers manufacture every component of there product. Re-badging is common. The original series Cobras were re-badged ACs. Chevy and Pontiac re-badged many products. Chyrsler and Plymoth. Chevy, GMC, Cadillac. Honda, Acura. Toyota, Lexus. Nissan, Infiniti. Ford, Mercury. Many other products are rebadged too.

As long as the buyer got a genuine Anniversary Shelby 427 and wante to pay the $500K for some reason that was worth it to the buyer, i.e.first or last anniversary or some other factor not known its what the market will support.
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Old 04-21-2015, 09:36 PM
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Whatever Continuations will be worth, they will be worth more than Kirkhams, then ERA, then SPF, on down the 'pecking order'.
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Old 04-21-2015, 09:43 PM
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[quote=rodneym;1345876]Whatever Continuations will be worth, they will be worth more than Kirkhams, then ERA, then SPF, on down the 'pecking order'.[/QUOT

That's why I did not buy my car as an investment, an aluminum Shelby will be worth more because it cost more in the beginning...replica I mean over a Kirkham and down the line...
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And we're back to the "mine is bigger than yours" debate.
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And we're back to the "mine is bigger than yours" debate.
No actually were not. It actually was never that. However, some like to say that always directing it towards Shelby owners as a further put down.

Nevertheless, if it is an argument of "ours is bigger than yours" the argument needs you to be saying "no, mine is just as big".

Kinda like the black guy who asked me for money once in Trenton who when I said "no" angrily accused me of refusing because he was black. My response was the only reason he is accusing me of that is because I'm white. He shut up and walked away having no response. Screw him.
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Mine's way blacker than yours...
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Whatever Continuations will be worth, they will be worth more than Kirkhams, then ERA, then SPF, on down the 'pecking order'.[/QUOT

That's why I did not buy my car as an investment, an aluminum Shelby will be worth more because it cost more in the beginning...replica I mean over a Kirkham and down the line...
You clearly must seem to know that every guy that buys a Shelby buys it as an investment and for no other reason. That is an amazing feat. You should be heavily into stocks with that talent but you already know that. With your winnings you should be able to by a real Cobra.

Your feigned faux pas intended as a put down is factually accurate when applying Websters definition. It's all in the current Registry.

You should also apply your amazing deductive powers to the question of why Shelbys cost more than Kirkhams. Once you find the answer please report back and enlighten us.
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You clearly must seem to know that every guy that buys a Shelby buys it as an investment and for no other reason. That is an amazing feat. You should be heavily into stocks with that talent but you already know that. With your winnings you should be able to by a real Cobra.

Your feigned faux pas intended as a put down is factually accurate when applying Websters definition. It's all in the current Registry.

You should also apply your amazing deductive powers to the question of why Shelbys cost more than Kirkhams. Once you find the answer please report back and enlighten us.
That makes absolute no since but when do you, they will cost more in the end because they cost more in the beginning, and why do you tell us in your title that you have an ORIGINAL side oiler in your car but don't state that your SHELBY is original, is it not, according to you it is...
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That makes absolute no since but when do you, they will cost more in the end because they cost more in the beginning, and why do you tell us in your title that you have an ORIGINAL side oiler in your car but don't state that your SHELBY is original, is it not, according to you it is...
You need to proof read your posts a little more before you hit that little "post" button.

To try and answer your garbled response all I can say is ...Uh, no. My Sideoiler is an original cast iron 1965 block. That's why it is an original Side oiler. Yup. Pretty easy right.

As to my Shelby, you are correct...it is not an original. Are you saying I do say it's an original or I don't say it's an original??? Can't tell from your cryptic response what you are saying. Let me respond nevertheless. Very simply I don't say it is an original Shelby and clearly never have because it clearly is not. It is clearly denoted as a 4000 series Cobra in my info as to the car. I'm sorry if you are confused or feel misled. However, you appear to be alone in that confusion or feeling as no one else seems to be confused or misled.

Also, just to follow up.... have you figured out why Shelbys sell for more? Let us know when you figure out the answer. We'll be here.
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We will all be geezers or dead before we know it, so get out there and enjoy what you have while the getting is good
You bet - when they put me in the ground I want to have more memories than regrets - WAY MORE!
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Old 04-22-2015, 12:31 PM
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Not only is this hobby replete with old farts, many of them seem to show signs of senile dementia....
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it's always comical Rodknock proves his points with a stock tip.
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it's always comical Rodknock proves his points with a stock tip.
It's also comical to me that most of your posts are about for-profit companies making a profit and it's always some mass conspiracy. And how a thinly-traded public company, at $0.17/share, though still regulated by the SEC, is somehow cheating their customers by making too much profit and/or their employees are committing embezzlement.
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it's always comical Rodknock proves his points with a stock tip.
What's more surprising is when you do make a point worth making. So far in this thread you are at a 0.
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C'mon, guys.
You're arguing with a shill.
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