Mystery solved. Shelby Trust to sell Real Cobras

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by patty442

I suggest they read a friend's copy of the Spring 2013 SAAC Shelby American magazine online, by a copy of the 2013 annual, or become a member of SAAC. and read the story about my car, my life and my parts. I have been called many thngs by many Cobra guys through the years. Mostly a good friend and a little nuts. I have known the principle people for over 40 years. Mike McClusey has called me "The premier original 427 Cobra parts hoarder in the world." We held hands for 40 years during the restoration of my car. Many many times we discussed parts and he said you'll never find that, forget about it. I said I have 18 of them. I knew Ned when he lived in NJ and wanted Geoff Howard to repaint the engine block in one of his early SC's wthout taking the engine out from the chassis. Remember that Ned ? continued

So when you do come back here, if you do maybe you can shed some light on this "stash" Denbeste supposedly acquired from Carroll.

Thanks

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

So when you do come back here, if you do maybe you can shed some light on this "stash" Denbeste supposedly acquired from Carroll.

Thanks

And maybe update your profile instead of just from Florida?

Nice story, but as JAMO said folks here have grown leery of stories without some substance and credibility. We have seen / heard many stories here that just don't pan out or turn out to be nothing more than someone trying to advance their own agenda and distract from the purpose of this site.

Of course, we all would like to believe it but name dropping is easy. Solid facts would be nice. Some pics would be nice too. So would being able to have a few seasoned members here step up and vouch for you.

Good luck!

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

So when you do come back here, if you do maybe you can shed some light on this "stash" Denbeste supposedly acquired from Carroll.

Thanks

Evan, are you looking for a particular OEM part for 4206? David K. has seen the treasure trove so it exists. I'm not quite sure why the OEM parts stash is important. It's like someone changed the channel to American Pickers or something.

[fordracing65]

Yes, but American Pickers offers a lot less for parts...

[REAL 1]

David's description was somewhat ambiguous. A "mountain" of parts means different things to different people. He clearly said some parts they used were original some repro. I think it was conceded there is not enough for 47 cars.

You would think with such parts they would have been neatly organized and inventoried.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

You would think with such parts they would have been neatly organized and inventoried.

Get real. Shelby was a farmer, that means he was a hoarder. My grandfather threw the baling wire we took off the hay we fed to the cows and threw it on the pile for enough years that eventually the wire on the top was offset by the rusted melted wire on the bottom. And he NEVER EVER THREW ANYTHING AWAY. Shelby's main warehouse was a disaster area, I can imagine that the other ones truly looked like the barns and sheds from the pickers show.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

Get real. Shelby was a farmer, that means he was a hoarder. My grandfather threw the baling wire we took off the hay we fed to the cows and threw it on the pile for enough years that eventually the wire on the top was offset by the rusted melted wire on the bottom. And he NEVER EVER THREW ANYTHING AWAY. Shelby's main warehouse was a disaster area, I can imagine that the other ones truly looked like the barns and sheds from the pickers show.

Shelby was a farmer. True, however, he was also a very astute businessman. However, I am not suggesting that Shelby organized any "stash" he may have had in an inventory fashion.

It is my understanding that DenBeste and the other "principals" of this new project have possession of the "stash" either physically or constructively. To the best of my knowledge I do not believe DenBeste is an unsophisticated "hayseed" just having come in from mowing the north forty. Neither are his partners in this "project" to my knowledge.

Call me silly or crazy but I would think there would be an organization and inventory of this "stash" they are using to construct $500,000.00 vehicles.

Maybe its juts me.

Maybe "Bob" can shed some light on this "stash" if he ever comes back.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Shelby was a farmer. True, however, he was also a very astute businessman. However, I am not suggesting that Shelby organized any "stash" he may have had in an inventory fashion.

It is my understanding that DenBeste and the other "principals" of this new project have possession of the "stash" either physically or constructively. To the best of my knowledge I do not believe DenBeste is an unsophisticated "hayseed" just having come in from mowing the north forty. Neither are his partners in this "project" to my knowledge.

Call me silly or crazy but I would think there would be an organization and inventory of this "stash" they are using to construct $500,000.00 vehicles.

Maybe its juts me.

Maybe "Bob" can shed some light on this "stash" if he ever comes back.

Yep, I think it's just you . So now you are allowing as how the parts exist, but you're insisting that they come here and disclose exactly what they have? What would entitle you or anyone to that information except the buyer of the vehicle?

They already told me they don't have enough parts to finish all cars exactly the same. Earlier ones will have more, later ones less. I think David said the same thing.

It seems that the vehicles are likely built to an order, so a "speculation" car seems unlikely. Should they build one I would agree that info should be part of the info in the For Sale package.

If you want to know write a check for 500K and get the build sheet for your car.

P.S. I can guarantee Shelby didn't know what he had. A friend of mine was responsible for building an inventory of his personal belongings and was working on it when I saw the material in the main facility in Gardena. There was stuff there that they just shook their heads at. A 60's something Lincoln that noone knew why it was there (they thought maybe CS stored it for someone and never got it back. It may have had a sentimental (to CS) but he never told anyone. CS's own Cobra was being worked on in a shop that was messier than mine. On the other hand, Cleo's side was spic-n-span

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

David's description was somewhat ambiguous. A "mountain" of parts means different things to different people. He clearly said some parts they used were original some repro. I think it was conceded there is not enough for 47 cars.

You would think with such parts they would have been neatly organized and inventoried.

I know there are parts hoarders out there and it wouldn't surprise me that some have stacks upon stacks of OEM parts hiding all over the place. There's a person on the Porsche forum with a warehouse full of parts for the 1990's 964's and 993's. He's posted pics of the warehouse, but he's definitely not a "I could tell ya, but I'd have to kill ya" kind person.

Heck I wouldn't mind having a nice OEM Cammer just because and I know there are some fellas with several of them. And I don't think any of these parts hoarders have fancy inventory control systems.

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I know there are parts hoarders out there and it wouldn't surprise me that some have stacks upon stacks of OEM parts hiding all over the place. There's a person on the Porsche forum with a warehouse full of parts for the 1990's 964's and 993's. He's posted pics of the warehouse, but he's definitely not a "I could tell ya, but I'd have to kill ya" kind person.

Heck I wouldn't mind having a nice OEM Cammer just because and I know there are some fellas with several of them. And I don't think any of these parts hoarders have fancy inventory control systems.

When I was a kid in the early '70s I worked for a guy that was a Ford fanatic. When Ford decided to pull their Muscle Parts program he went friggin' crazy and dragged me to dealerships with a big truck, sometimes late at night.

It was like a frenzy of guys cutting deals with dealerships and cleaning out the stock as fast as they could. I personally helped him load up two Boss 429's and two Cammers, all still on the factory pallets. I remember stacking cams still in the cardboard tubes like firewood. Tunnel Port heads, manifolds 427 S/O blocks, you name it. We Built racks at his shop and stacked everything up. It looked like a parts store when we were done.

I remember him telling me "Bernica, this sh*t is going to be worth a fortune some day".

That was in the Pacific Northwest, outside of Seattle.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Evan, are you looking for a particular OEM part for 4206? David K. has seen the treasure trove so it exists. I'm not quite sure why the OEM parts stash is important. It's like someone changed the channel to American Pickers or something.

No. Already found what I need. The stash is important because they made it a central issue to these cars.